Comments on: WebProNews advocating for Blog and Ping strategies http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/ The leading source of news covering social media and the blogosphere. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:18:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Duncan http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-44223 Duncan Wed, 10 Aug 2005 00:44:41 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/#comment-44223 Rich I accept and respect that you publish different points of view, but would you post an article in support of comment spam for example based on the fact that 1% of all people using the automated software used by comment spammers do so in a legitimate fashion? The problem here is that 99.9% of people using the tools mentioned in this story do so in conjunction with content theft. Cutting and pasting quotes and providing links and commentary (as I have with this very post) is very different from automated content theft that is packaged with nearly every piece of "blog and ping" script I've managed to look at. It's disappointing that an otherwise respectable source such as WebProNews would allow such items to be published. Rich
I accept and respect that you publish different points of view, but would you post an article in support of comment spam for example based on the fact that 1% of all people using the automated software used by comment spammers do so in a legitimate fashion? The problem here is that 99.9% of people using the tools mentioned in this story do so in conjunction with content theft. Cutting and pasting quotes and providing links and commentary (as I have with this very post) is very different from automated content theft that is packaged with nearly every piece of “blog and ping” script I’ve managed to look at. It’s disappointing that an otherwise respectable source such as WebProNews would allow such items to be published.

]]> By: John Mudd http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-44219 John Mudd Tue, 09 Aug 2005 18:52:11 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/#comment-44219 If you want to shut the spammy junk blogs down a good way to do it is to only allow the titles of your posts to be syndicated. Most of them will not syndicate just the titles, from my experience. You can also use an RSS aggregator that forces people to sign up, or visit your blog for the full entry. Most spammers want people to visit their website, not your blog. Personally, I think it would be nice if syndication services provided more options for content sharing. That would stop a lot of the spamming. As I said in another comments entry, a broker here in my own area was syndicating entire posts I had written to her blog without my permission. She has stopped using my posts as requested, though, thank goodness. If we all charged for syndication spamming wouldn't be a problem. When will Feedster allow for that, I wonder. If you want to shut the spammy junk blogs down a good way to do it is to only allow the titles of your posts to be syndicated. Most of them will not syndicate just the titles, from my experience. You can also use an RSS aggregator that forces people to sign up, or visit your blog for the full entry. Most spammers want people to visit their website, not your blog. Personally, I think it would be nice if syndication services provided more options for content sharing. That would stop a lot of the spamming. As I said in another comments entry, a broker here in my own area was syndicating entire posts I had written to her blog without my permission. She has stopped using my posts as requested, though, thank goodness. If we all charged for syndication spamming wouldn’t be a problem. When will Feedster allow for that, I wonder.

]]> By: taughnee http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-44215 taughnee Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:21:20 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/#comment-44215 Personally I'm growing tired of having to sort through all the "spammy junk blogs" as I try to find *actual* keyword-specific content. It drives me nuts. I wonder if it will last, if search engines will find a way to sift through the junk to get to the real deal. If so, are these spam&junk bloggers are going to ruin it for the rest of us? You know, those of us that spend a great deal of time developing ACTUAL content that's useful to the reader, instead of just stuffing keywords all over the darned place. These are the things I ponder. And I agree with you that it's slightly odd that WebProNews would take this particular point of view ("a really effective method ...") without recognizing that this practice is generally considered by reputable "Web Pros" to be a shady practice. It's just not about creating good content, it's about trying to trick the engines. Right? Personally I’m growing tired of having to sort through all the “spammy junk blogs” as I try to find *actual* keyword-specific content. It drives me nuts.

I wonder if it will last, if search engines will find a way to sift through the junk to get to the real deal. If so, are these spam&junk bloggers are going to ruin it for the rest of us? You know, those of us that spend a great deal of time developing ACTUAL content that’s useful to the reader, instead of just stuffing keywords all over the darned place.

These are the things I ponder.

And I agree with you that it’s slightly odd that WebProNews would take this particular point of view (“a really effective method …”) without recognizing that this practice is generally considered by reputable “Web Pros” to be a shady practice. It’s just not about creating good content, it’s about trying to trick the engines.

Right?

]]> By: Rich Ord http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-44204 Rich Ord Tue, 09 Aug 2005 14:36:33 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/#comment-44204 I noticed your post and read the article that we published at WebProNews. I understand your point but you made some logic leaps when you assume that the writer is advocating spammy junk blogs. Most blogs take excerpts of content in their posts (your own post does it!) ... and that is all that the writer suggested in his article. Just because the writer explains how a blog can help get a site crawled quicker does not in itself mean he is advocating blogs that are not also interesting and useful. Additionally, we publish many points of view at WebProNews. It does not in any way mean we "advocate" what any particular person writes. Thanks, Rich Ord CEO, iEntry, Inc. (iEntry is the parent company of WebProNews) I noticed your post and read the article that we published at WebProNews. I understand your point but you made some logic leaps when you assume that the writer is advocating spammy junk blogs. Most blogs take excerpts of content in their posts (your own post does it!) … and that is all that the writer suggested in his article. Just because the writer explains how a blog can help get a site crawled quicker does not in itself mean he is advocating blogs that are not also interesting and useful.

Additionally, we publish many points of view at WebProNews. It does not in any way mean we “advocate” what any particular person writes.

Thanks,

Rich Ord
CEO, iEntry, Inc.
(iEntry is the parent company of WebProNews)

]]> By: chrispian http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-44203 chrispian Tue, 09 Aug 2005 14:27:05 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/#comment-44203 Wait, I'm not supposed to be copying everyon elses work, passing it off as my own and using it to make money and get links back to my sites? Crap. I've got to change my whole network of sites! Wait, I’m not supposed to be copying everyon elses work, passing it off as my own and using it to make money and get links back to my sites? Crap. I’ve got to change my whole network of sites!

]]> By: Nicole Simon http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-44182 Nicole Simon Tue, 09 Aug 2005 08:57:38 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/#comment-44182 I have enough pages of my own to make that spidering easy, so the thought of setting up a special blog just for that sounds silly to me. And if even I had not, I would know enough people who could 'introduce' me. But I guess, some people need that. ;( I have enough pages of my own to make that spidering easy, so the thought of setting up a special blog just for that sounds silly to me. And if even I had not, I would know enough people who could ‘introduce’ me.

But I guess, some people need that. ;(

]]> By: marc-o http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-44180 marc-o Tue, 09 Aug 2005 08:38:59 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/09/webpronews-advocating-for-blog-and-ping-strategies/#comment-44180 It is not the first time that WebProNews has been advocating for this kind of crapware: http://www.webpronews.com/news/ebusinessnews/wpn-45-20050708BlogPingServicesFreeAndPaid.html http://www.webpronews.com/ebusiness/ebusinesstactics/wpn-8-20050728TheHybridBlogandPing.html Scoble and Steve Rubel are writing for WebProNews. Maybe they should not. It is not the first time that WebProNews has been advocating for this kind of crapware:

http://www.webpronews.com/news/ebusinessnews/wpn-45-20050708BlogPingServicesFreeAndPaid.html

http://www.webpronews.com/ebusiness/ebusinesstactics/wpn-8-20050728TheHybridBlogandPing.html

Scoble and Steve Rubel are writing for WebProNews. Maybe they should not.

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