Weblogs Inc., pay rates revealed by disgruntled potential recruit

August 26, 2005 | By Duncan | Filed Under General

A potential recruit to the new Weblogs Inc., food blog Slashfood has posted a full copy of a contract she was offered to write for the site on a competing food blog “Food Blog ’scool” after “recruiters” for the Jason Calacanis managed company (I believe Deidre Woollard) refused to discuss parts of the contract with her that precluded her from writing at other sites.

Kate Hopkins
writes on the contract:

“[the] money wasn’t the reason I didn’t sign with Weblogs. The issues I had dealt with section 10 (Covenant Not to Compete) combined with section 11 (Acknowledgements). The contract could be easily interpretted that I could not involve myself with any other food and travel publications (not just web sites) until 6 months after we parted company. I felt very unomfortable with that…Add to that that posts on their sites means less time I can put on my own. I didn’t like that idea at all. So I passed on their offer.”


The contract, since removed from the site, reveals a lot of things previously not in the public sphere (although I’d note rumoured for a long time) such as pay rates and conditions.

According to the contract, writers for Slashfood are paid $500 USD per month and are expected to write “125 monthly blog posts, along with monitoring of comments, responding to readers in comments, and deleting offensive comments. Posts under the goal of 125 will be pro-rated at $4.00 per post”

The site also reveals Weblogs Inc’s recruiting tactics that should please bloggers who aren’t writing for the network but want to: Weblogs Inc “recruiters” email blogs currently blogging on topics that they’re looking to start up a blog on and ask them if they know anyone who might be interested in writing on the topic.

Update: I’ve posted this in response to some of the reaction on this one:
Time for a long cold shower on blogging pay rates

(thanks to Patrick Grote for the tip/ via Metafilter)


About the author:



Comments

53 Responses to “Weblogs Inc., pay rates revealed by disgruntled potential recruit”

  1. Chi An on August 26th, 2005 4:51 am

    $4 per post? I had been paid $5 for a post before. I thought Weblogs Inc should pay more than it!

  2. Weblogs’ Fishy Blog Contract » TheSMSGuide Blog » Blog Archive on August 26th, 2005 4:52 am

    […] to discuss parts of the contract with her that precluded her from writing at other sites. Weblogs Inc., pay rates revealed by disgruntled […]

  3. colbert on August 26th, 2005 4:53 am

    looks like a lame contract to me. the pay is not that great too

  4. John (SYNTAGMA) on August 26th, 2005 5:52 am

    That seems to be the going rate. Nick Denton’s Gawker Media is reported to pay bloggers $2000 per month for writing 12 posts a day. That works out around $5 per post for 460 odd posts per month. I know one potential applicant who is coming from a food blog which is a family business. The restrictions are going to cut out a lot of knowledgable writers.

  5. swashbookler on August 26th, 2005 9:39 am

    part of the pay is ‘being seen’.

  6. Andrew on August 26th, 2005 10:39 am

    I would just like to say that the food blog scool is not a ‘competing blog’. The scool exists to assist food and wine bloggers in all aspects of blogging and writing. It does not, unlike slashfood, publish posts regarding the actual food and drink. Just thought I should make that clear ;-)

    I write on both by the way and maintian my own wine/food blog - spittoon.biz

  7. jake on August 26th, 2005 10:49 am

    i had heard nick was paying 4k-6k (that includes bonus), so i think that works out to $10-15 per post, at least for lead editors. but this was probably for contributors- i’m not sure what’s the going rate for that.

  8. Flexo on August 26th, 2005 12:42 pm

    “Being seen” is good, but the non-compete clause, which stipulates that the author may not write for any competing publication (including offline), meaning anything about the same topic, for six-months after the termination of the contract means that most of the momentum gained by name recognition would be lost.

  9. Paul Short on August 26th, 2005 1:57 pm

    Holy crap, I pay Kevin more than that per post over at my gadgets blog. I’d pay him more if I could, considering the quality of his writing.

  10. David Burn on August 26th, 2005 5:26 pm

    Just to add some perspective to this pay rate discussion, Adrants reported recently that Weblogs, Inc. will pull in a million dollars in Google Adsense revenue this year.

  11. Finanso.de » Was verdienen (unselbständige) Blogger in den USA on August 26th, 2005 5:32 pm

    […]

    Was verdienen (unselbständige) Blogger in den USA

    Blog Herald hat einen interessanten Artikel über die Verdienstmà […]

  12. Stuart on August 26th, 2005 5:49 pm

    Damn - that’s sweatshop rates. We get much more than that for the blog entries we do.

  13. MM @ PFBlog.com on August 26th, 2005 7:57 pm

    $4 is pathetic, but food is not a topic that can be easily monetized. If someone pays me this money for personal finance topics, I’ll be laughing.

  14. 9rules Network: Weblog on August 26th, 2005 9:58 pm

    […] no reader comments — add your own. View other entries in News. Something like this (Blogebrity opinion and […]

  15. Weblogs Inc Pays $4 per Post to Bloggers: Blog Tips - ProBlogger on August 27th, 2005 1:55 am

    […] Rowse

    Weblogs Inc Pays $4 per Post to Bloggers

    Duncan has an interesting post that sheds some light on t […]

  16. Amit Agarwal on August 27th, 2005 5:35 am

    $4 per post ?

    Why is anybody willing to work for Weblogsinc.

    Better start your own blog, show Google ads and you will eary much much more.

    Plus, you aren’t working for anyone.

  17. Angel on August 27th, 2005 11:23 am

    Does the average blogger earn over $500 a month from their blog? Probably not. And if they do, the time and effort it takes to maintain that might make writing for WIN very attactive. I don’t think $4.00 per post is as bad as everyone is making it out to be.

  18. Eoghann Irving on August 27th, 2005 12:49 pm

    The average blogger doesn’t earn close to $500 a month from their blog. They also probably put a lot more hours into their blogging than would be required to make 4 posts a day per this contract.

    Plus as someone else mentioned, Food is not a topic like gadgets which brings high adsense revenue.

    Not only that but it’s a new blog so the traffic must be low (by Weblogs Inc. standards) which will also reduce revenue.

    I would suggest that people don’t assume the contract is the same for all positions in all the Weblogs Inc. blogs.

  19. Jeff Barry on August 27th, 2005 1:12 pm

    At $4 a post, earning from $500 - $1000 a month, one can live very well in some countries. Argentina is one example, where university professors earn only $300 a month. There are a lot of highly educated people in places like Argentina who know English that would glady work for these wages. Perhaps there is an untapped market for writers that some blog network should explore. Hey, one can probably get people to blog in both English and Spanish for the same price.

  20. Weblogs Inc pay rates at Problogger Philippines on August 28th, 2005 4:08 am

    […] e clauses in the contract that may not be acceptable to other writers. The good thing is, nothing in the contract is “hidden.&#8221 […]

  21. Migs on August 28th, 2005 1:29 pm

    I agree with Jeff… people here (in the Philippines) would go for it.

  22. » Time for a long cold shower on blogging pay rates The Blog Herald: more blog news more often on August 29th, 2005 3:57 am

    […] rates” as well, because it would have covered what I’m going to write. I ran the story last week on Weblogs Inc’s […]

  23. intruder’s register » проÑ?то неÑ?колько Ñ?Ñ?ылок on August 29th, 2005 12:22 pm

    […] решений) Ñ? механизмами, лежащими в оÑ?нвое поиÑ?ка. Weblogs Inc., pay rates revealed by disgruntled […]

  24. intruder’s register » проÑ?то неÑ?колько Ñ?Ñ?ылок on August 29th, 2005 12:22 pm

    […] решений) Ñ? механизмами, лежащими в оÑ?нвое поиÑ?ка. Weblogs Inc., pay rates revealed by disgruntled […]

  25. Weblogs Inc pay rates revealed by disgruntled potential recruit » TheSMSGuide Blog » Blog Archive on August 30th, 2005 11:42 am

    […] thing but I guess the fellow blogger was too pissed to worry about being sued by Weblogs. Weblogs Inc pay rates revealed by disgruntled p […]

  26. Entrepreneur’s Journey » Weblog Inc. Bloggers Earn $500 USD Per Month on August 31st, 2005 4:28 am

    […] that question and will at least tickle your fancy if you like blogging for dollars news. Blog Herald: According to the […]

  27. » b5media’s Blogger Contracts b5media.com - a new kind of blogging network on September 1st, 2005 2:28 pm

    […] Many of the major blogging networks (including 9rules and, without their approval, Weblogs Inc) have had their contracts with […]

  28. Nick Douglas on September 22nd, 2005 9:08 am
  29. WiRED.Pod - The Technology Post » Blog Archive » Can Bloggers Strike It Rich? on September 23rd, 2005 3:18 am

    […] lete offensive comments — all for about $4 a post. At least, according to a contract leaked to the internet last month. […]

  30. WiFi-ArT.com » Can Bloggers Strike It Rich? on September 25th, 2005 8:50 am

    […] lete offensive comments — all for about $4 a post. At least, according to a contract leaked to the internet last mon […]

  31. Unbyted » Blog Archive » Lo que pagan a los bloggers de WeblogsInc on September 27th, 2005 7:00 am

    […] istradores). En ese comentario desvelaba las condiciones del contrato y lo que le pagaban. Escribió lo siguiente: [the] money wasn’ […]

  32. mildiez.net » Archivo de bitácora » AOL compra Weblogs, Inc. por 25 Millones de dólares on October 6th, 2005 12:16 pm

    […] año en publicidad de AdSense, lo cual tampoco está nada mal, sobretodo teniendo en cuenta […]

  33. Brin on October 6th, 2005 10:49 pm

    I really have to say that this is really a lot of work for those guys to do for four dollars per. @ $500 per mo. can they even eat let alone get some kind of pay day? Lets up the price for these people and pay them what their worth.

  34. Darin on October 18th, 2005 12:33 pm

    It really is wrong when a person slaves over their laptop yielding out great information and doesn’t even get compensated properly for it while the recipient gets all the margins and benefits.
    Shame Shame,
    D.
    http://loan.valueprep.com/pay-day-loan.html

  35. Ozzie on November 12th, 2005 11:21 am

    Even though it is low for American standard, it’s not that bad. I mean, food is not easy to monetize and there are lots of people that willing to blog for $4 per post. People in India perhaps? Heck, people from my country would do that too.

  36. 2803, le blog » 1 million de $ de revenu pub pour un blog! on November 30th, 2005 7:11 pm

    […] lete offensive comments — all for about $4 a post. At least, according to a contract leaked to the internet last month. Natura […]

  37. Dmitriy on December 13th, 2005 4:13 pm

    I don’t understand. Somebody pay money for you for writing blogs like in on this site?

  38. Saha on December 25th, 2005 9:29 am

    I recently posted a link to a story about Weblog Inc bringing in $1 Mil per year in AdSense revenue. It was a popular story circulated by many other bloggers too because people love to hear about people making money online especially bloggers making m…

  39. Dimon on December 28th, 2005 1:00 pm

    I really have to say that this is really a lot of work for those guys to do for four dollars per. @ $500 per mo. can they even eat let alone get some kind of pay day? Lets up the price for these people and pay them what their worth.

  40. Kate on January 20th, 2006 4:24 am

    It really is wrong when a person slaves over their laptop yielding out great information and doesn’t even get compensated properly for it while the recipient gets all the margins and benefits.
    Shame Shame,

  41. pilkster.com » Weblogs, inc. rates of pay on January 24th, 2006 8:29 am

    […] Weblogs, inc. rates of pay Filed under: Bloggingadd to del.icio.us Interesting thread about pay rates at Weblo […]

  42. cheapest Fincar pill online. Marcus Wikstrom on May 3rd, 2006 11:34 am

    cheapest Fincar pill online

    Cheapest Fincar pill o…

  43. Quick Online Tips » Employment and Jobs for Bloggers on May 16th, 2006 5:41 am

    […] ger? Blogging contracts have been protected for long, but when the Weblogs Inc., food blog Slashfood contract became public, then 9 ru […]

  44. Weblog of Tom Purves » Burgeoning blog factory B5 Media gets funded, that sound you hear is the longtail getting kicked out the door on October 4th, 2006 10:26 pm

    […] Update: Duncan writes in (see comments), B5 doesn’t pay their bloggers per post as I suggested (perhaps revshare makes more sense?). In any case I must have been thinking of stories of another another blog network out there. And according to Duncan, adsense is not their primary source of revenue (good to hear their revenues streams are diversified, too heavy a reliance one or two adnetworks has been the downfall of other webmasters). […]

  45. gambling in online us on March 20th, 2007 4:12 pm

    gambling in online us

    gambling in online us

  46. 41 Links to Help You Start a Blog Network : Board Shorts and Business Suits on April 6th, 2007 1:39 am

    […] Here’s a few interesting articles on the mother of all blog networks, Weblogs Inc. They’re from Blog Herald and deals with payments from weblogs inc and the other is and extension of the first and is about the state of pay rates in blog networks. Although it’s from 2005, it gives you a little more info and keeps you going on your blog network. […]

  47. The Way The Internet Should Be! » Blog Archive » How To Grow A Great Blog Without Writing It Yourself on April 10th, 2007 6:02 am

    […] A few years ago, the original blog network, Weblogs, Inc, had a blogger contract leaked to the web, so we all got to see how their system worked. While not every blogger had the same agreement, it was possible to garner a general impression of how the most successful blog network hired bloggers. […]

  48. Beneficios y Ganancias de las Redes de Blogs | WOW Magazine on November 21st, 2007 8:59 pm

    […] además de 15 personas trabajans. Sirve unos 60 millones de páginas vistas al mes en total. Paga a 4 dólares por post a los autores. Estaban ingresando unos 2.500-3.000 dólares diarios en concepto de publicidad […]

  49. Can Live » Blog Archive » Weblogs Inc vs the average Programmer on January 13th, 2008 6:13 pm

    […] disgruntled Weblogs Inc recruit recently revealed that on an average, Weblogs Inc pays $4 per post and their bloggers are expected to write 4.2 posts […]

  50. MOST MOST » Blog Archive » Employment and Jobs for Bloggers on January 16th, 2008 6:09 am

    […] blogger? Blogging contracts have been protected for long, but when the Weblogs Inc., food blog Slashfood contract became public, then 9 rules decided to make their blogging contract public too. That can give you some insight […]

  51. Weblogs Inc vs the average Programmer | Etixet on February 9th, 2008 5:31 pm

    […] disgruntled Weblogs Inc recruit recently revealed that on an average, Weblogs Inc pays $4 per post and their bloggers are expected to write 4.2 posts […]

  52. Weblogs Inc vs the average Programmer | Technology on February 14th, 2008 3:30 pm

    […] disgruntled Weblogs Inc recruit recently revealed that on an average, Weblogs Inc pays $4 per post and their bloggers are expected to write 4.2 posts […]

  53. Nos EUA fala-se em sindicato dos blogueiros. E nós? » Prática on March 23rd, 2008 10:01 pm

    […] do BlogHerald disse que os blogueiros contratados pela Weblogs Inc recebem 500 dólares por mês, com a obrigação de fazer 125 postagens no período. Praticamente se desculpando por ter dito […]

Contributors

Bloggy Award

Latest Reviews

More at Blogosphere News

Submitted News

Our Blog Metrics

Recommended

Splashpress Media

Powered by WordPress | Designed by Brian Gardner
Copyright © 2003 - 2008 by The Blog Herald - All Rights Reserved