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		<title>By: So, you have a brand new (make money blogging/online) blog? &#171; Staska.Net</title>
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		<dc:creator>So, you have a brand new (make money blogging/online) blog? &#171; Staska.Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The &#8220;review/article quoting&#8221; techniques could sometimes have worked in 2004 and may even continue working on an old, trusted domains for some time. But even then a lot of the effort was a waste of time. Most of Darren&#8217;s earnings came from a very few blogs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The &#8220;review/article quoting&#8221; techniques could sometimes have worked in 2004 and may even continue working on an old, trusted domains for some time. But even then a lot of the effort was a waste of time. Most of Darren&#8217;s earnings came from a very few blogs. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: internet marketer</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/29/time-for-a-long-cold-shower-on-blogging-pay-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-73508</link>
		<dc:creator>internet marketer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And the reality is that most bloggers will never get to see this sort of money, even if you donâ€™t think its a lot of money.&quot;

It&#039;s true, but not because there&#039;s not plenty of money to be made...its just that people don&#039;t know how to make it. You&#039;re not going to make a lot of money as a &quot;writer&quot;, but if you&#039;ve got a good niche for your blog there&#039;s no reason you can&#039;t make killer money by utilizing a few lesser-known marketing tactics. You can&#039;t just keep writing and expect the money to roll in. In most cases you need to proactively TRY to make money!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And the reality is that most bloggers will never get to see this sort of money, even if you donâ€™t think its a lot of money.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true, but not because there&#8217;s not plenty of money to be made&#8230;its just that people don&#8217;t know how to make it. You&#8217;re not going to make a lot of money as a &#8220;writer&#8221;, but if you&#8217;ve got a good niche for your blog there&#8217;s no reason you can&#8217;t make killer money by utilizing a few lesser-known marketing tactics. You can&#8217;t just keep writing and expect the money to roll in. In most cases you need to proactively TRY to make money!</p>
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		<title>By: Petition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There so many sites that pays people to blog now, does anyone know a good site?  Thanks. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There so many sites that pays people to blog now, does anyone know a good site?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iâ€™ve just landed an ad contract ... that will deliver my wife a new dish washing machine.&quot;

What kind of century are you living in? For you and your wife and anyone else who eats in your house!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iâ€™ve just landed an ad contract &#8230; that will deliver my wife a new dish washing machine.&#8221;</p>
<p>What kind of century are you living in? For you and your wife and anyone else who eats in your house!</p>
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		<title>By: Angsuman Chakraborty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angsuman Chakraborty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 20:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; But it took me a very, very long time to get to $500 USD per month.
Just curious. How long in months?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; But it took me a very, very long time to get to $500 USD per month.<br />
Just curious. How long in months?</p>
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		<title>By: Trae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just started blogging and I have made about 100 bucks in a month, I truly think that bloggers are capable of making 20-50 k a year with mutliple blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started blogging and I have made about 100 bucks in a month, I truly think that bloggers are capable of making 20-50 k a year with mutliple blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Smetty&#8217;s Soapbox &#187; Bloggers loon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smetty&#8217;s Soapbox &#187; Bloggers loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 12:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  een belangrijk netwerk en als je geduld hebt, dan kan je er meer uit halen (zie ondermeer The Blog Herald, ook via Webdrain).  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  een belangrijk netwerk en als je geduld hebt, dan kan je er meer uit halen (zie ondermeer The Blog Herald, ook via Webdrain).  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andru Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andru Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 07:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering where you got the figures from about the whole percentage of bloggers that make X amount of dollars. The reason I ask is because, if you are right, I must be in the top 1%. I make WELL over $5,000.00 per month consistently, and I have been blogging for just over one year. It took me about 8 weeks to hit the $500 mark.

If you are dedicated and write good content, I don&#039;t see what the problem is. Be original, and give people a reason to come back. 

As for the whole WIN payment thing, after seeing how quickly I was able to hit $500 a month, without tying myself down with any sort of exclusivity contract, I don&#039;t see any incentive. For example, if a magazine wants you to write for them and ONLY them, they HIRE you and pay you a salary or hourly wage to keep you from the competition. If not, you are free to write for as many magazine as you wish - be they competition or not.

The other thing, though, is that competition is vastly different on the Internet. For example, in the real world, Burger King and McDonalds want your business. You have $5 to spend, you are going to choose one of the two places. One wins, one loses. On the Internet, if I want to get tech news, there is nothing stopping me from going to Slashdot, Gizmodo, Gear Live, and Engadget. There is no limited resource that I need to give up. They will all get my traffic, and that is frankly what many people do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering where you got the figures from about the whole percentage of bloggers that make X amount of dollars. The reason I ask is because, if you are right, I must be in the top 1%. I make WELL over $5,000.00 per month consistently, and I have been blogging for just over one year. It took me about 8 weeks to hit the $500 mark.</p>
<p>If you are dedicated and write good content, I don&#8217;t see what the problem is. Be original, and give people a reason to come back. </p>
<p>As for the whole WIN payment thing, after seeing how quickly I was able to hit $500 a month, without tying myself down with any sort of exclusivity contract, I don&#8217;t see any incentive. For example, if a magazine wants you to write for them and ONLY them, they HIRE you and pay you a salary or hourly wage to keep you from the competition. If not, you are free to write for as many magazine as you wish &#8211; be they competition or not.</p>
<p>The other thing, though, is that competition is vastly different on the Internet. For example, in the real world, Burger King and McDonalds want your business. You have $5 to spend, you are going to choose one of the two places. One wins, one loses. On the Internet, if I want to get tech news, there is nothing stopping me from going to Slashdot, Gizmodo, Gear Live, and Engadget. There is no limited resource that I need to give up. They will all get my traffic, and that is frankly what many people do.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 05:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note on Matt Haughey, don&#039;t know the guy, but noticed how much his posting rates gone up since Weblogs Inc launched PVRWire in competition? I&#039;m into PVR&#039;s so I read both, wonderful what competition can do :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note on Matt Haughey, don&#8217;t know the guy, but noticed how much his posting rates gone up since Weblogs Inc launched PVRWire in competition? I&#8217;m into PVR&#8217;s so I read both, wonderful what competition can do :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 05:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, sorry, I can&#039;t figure out why I thought it was WIN. So disregard that bit.

Damn it, I need to CHECK my links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, sorry, I can&#8217;t figure out why I thought it was WIN. So disregard that bit.</p>
<p>Damn it, I need to CHECK my links.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moncur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Moncur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 05:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just  a correction to Nick Douglas&#039; comment above: PVRBlog is NOT a Weblogs Inc. publication, and to my knowledge Matt Haughey does not write for WIN.

(pvrWIRE is a WIN blog, but Haughey is not the writer.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just  a correction to Nick Douglas&#8217; comment above: PVRBlog is NOT a Weblogs Inc. publication, and to my knowledge Matt Haughey does not write for WIN.</p>
<p>(pvrWIRE is a WIN blog, but Haughey is not the writer.)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omar, please e-mail me (blogebrity@gmail.com) when you launch your network, so Blogebrity can report it.

Duncan, excellent post. Also note that full-time WIN bloggers like Karina Longworth post far more than 4 entries a day. On Slashfood, TV Squad, and Cinematical, I found 8 posts from her today. I browsed a few other WIN blogs, but I might have missed other posts from her. I think she also does some recruiting or backend work, but I&#039;ve never asked.

Anyway, there are several full-timers doing that. At the contractual rate, that would net $1000 a month. My bet is that Longworth earns more (this is a guess; I&#039;ve talked to her, but I haven&#039;t asked her salary).

Several WIN bloggers, like PVRblog&#039;s Matt Haughey and, obviously, Mark Cuban, are running their WIN blogs as little hobbies and work only at the pro-rated level. I have no idea whether Haughey earns extra for his street cred in the blogosphere (he runs Metafilter.com).

All in all, the rate seems fair for what WIN bloggers write, but it&#039;s not enough to pull me away from my own plans.

Heh, my plans are pretty cool. If I told you, you&#039;d dig them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omar, please e-mail me (blogebrity@gmail.com) when you launch your network, so Blogebrity can report it.</p>
<p>Duncan, excellent post. Also note that full-time WIN bloggers like Karina Longworth post far more than 4 entries a day. On Slashfood, TV Squad, and Cinematical, I found 8 posts from her today. I browsed a few other WIN blogs, but I might have missed other posts from her. I think she also does some recruiting or backend work, but I&#8217;ve never asked.</p>
<p>Anyway, there are several full-timers doing that. At the contractual rate, that would net $1000 a month. My bet is that Longworth earns more (this is a guess; I&#8217;ve talked to her, but I haven&#8217;t asked her salary).</p>
<p>Several WIN bloggers, like PVRblog&#8217;s Matt Haughey and, obviously, Mark Cuban, are running their WIN blogs as little hobbies and work only at the pro-rated level. I have no idea whether Haughey earns extra for his street cred in the blogosphere (he runs Metafilter.com).</p>
<p>All in all, the rate seems fair for what WIN bloggers write, but it&#8217;s not enough to pull me away from my own plans.</p>
<p>Heh, my plans are pretty cool. If I told you, you&#8217;d dig them.</p>
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		<title>By: John Andrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote: 

&quot;I can imagine some one at ThreadWatch writing in response to this that if pay rates are so low with bloggers why not get into some other business (like being a black-hat SEO for example).&quot;

Actually, I think someone on TW is more likely to say :

&quot;If you&#039;re only making $100/month with your blog, you really need to hire an SEO or Internet strategist to help you&quot;.  

In fact, if your post here was published on Webmasterworld, I would have been quick to suspect it was a shill trying to convince bloggers making $3/day that they&#039;re doing just fine (leaving more profits and opportunities for the rest of us).</description>
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<p>&#8220;I can imagine some one at ThreadWatch writing in response to this that if pay rates are so low with bloggers why not get into some other business (like being a black-hat SEO for example).&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, I think someone on TW is more likely to say :</p>
<p>&#8220;If you&#8217;re only making $100/month with your blog, you really need to hire an SEO or Internet strategist to help you&#8221;.  </p>
<p>In fact, if your post here was published on Webmasterworld, I would have been quick to suspect it was a shill trying to convince bloggers making $3/day that they&#8217;re doing just fine (leaving more profits and opportunities for the rest of us).</p>
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		<title>By: graywolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>graywolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 01:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hunger is the best pickle ...</description>
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		<title>By: ProBlogger Blog Tips to help you make money</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProBlogger Blog Tips to help you make money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] youâ€™re not going to be in my bad books. But never forget that it takes time.&#8221; 	The full article is a very good read and definately worth a  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] youâ€™re not going to be in my bad books. But never forget that it takes time.&#8221; 	The full article is a very good read and definately worth a  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: More on Blog Pay Rates: Blog Tips - ProBlogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>More on Blog Pay Rates: Blog Tips - ProBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] itten by Darren Rowse  	 More on Blog Pay Rates  	         		 Duncan writes an excellent piece in response to the criticism of Weblogs I [...]</description>
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<p> 	 More on Blog Pay Rates </p>
<p> 		 Duncan writes an excellent piece in response to the criticism of Weblogs I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Al-Hajjar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omar Al-Hajjar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post Duncan. As someone who is starting a blog network, which means also thinking about a compensation program for my bloggers, I find it very exciting that we&#039;re just at the tip of the ice burg for pay right now.

For example, blogs are not mainstream, yet. While I was pitching my business model to various entrepreneurs and business people over the last 4 months, I&#039;d begin by asking if they knew what weblogs are, let alone are they reading any. Unsurprisingly (we all know that blogging is still in the early adopters stage), most people didn&#039;t know what a weblog was.

10 years down the road when RSS become the next &#039;email&#039;, imagine what sort of traffic (read: money) that influential blogs will be getting? That&#039;s going to translate into more money for people who publish quality content.

It&#039;s a great time to be in this space!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post Duncan. As someone who is starting a blog network, which means also thinking about a compensation program for my bloggers, I find it very exciting that we&#8217;re just at the tip of the ice burg for pay right now.</p>
<p>For example, blogs are not mainstream, yet. While I was pitching my business model to various entrepreneurs and business people over the last 4 months, I&#8217;d begin by asking if they knew what weblogs are, let alone are they reading any. Unsurprisingly (we all know that blogging is still in the early adopters stage), most people didn&#8217;t know what a weblog was.</p>
<p>10 years down the road when RSS become the next &#8216;email&#8217;, imagine what sort of traffic (read: money) that influential blogs will be getting? That&#8217;s going to translate into more money for people who publish quality content.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great time to be in this space!</p>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Duncan.

And I would add that if you&#039;re upsetting people you&#039;re probably doing something right.

; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Duncan.</p>
<p>And I would add that if you&#8217;re upsetting people you&#8217;re probably doing something right.</p>
<p>; )</p>
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		<title>By: colbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>colbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some people like to complain too much. just blog away without thinking about the money and it will roll in later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some people like to complain too much. just blog away without thinking about the money and it will roll in later</p>
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		<title>By: Amit Agarwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amit Agarwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan,

I did try to calculate the monthly income of WeblogsInc network here
http://labnol.blogspot.com/2005/08/weblogs-inc-vs-average-programmer.html

According to this post, $4 per post is just the starting pay, some bloggers get even more at Weblogs Inc.

At $4 they might be earning some $100 per day - but if they are paying more to some bloggers, are they really making any real money ?

Amit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan,</p>
<p>I did try to calculate the monthly income of WeblogsInc network here<br />
<a href="http://labnol.blogspot.com/2005/08/weblogs-inc-vs-average-programmer.html" rel="nofollow">http://labnol.blogspot.com/2005/08/weblogs-inc-vs-average-programmer.html</a></p>
<p>According to this post, $4 per post is just the starting pay, some bloggers get even more at Weblogs Inc.</p>
<p>At $4 they might be earning some $100 per day &#8211; but if they are paying more to some bloggers, are they really making any real money ?</p>
<p>Amit</p>
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		<title>By: chrispian</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrispian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been outspoken about the contract, but not about the money. People thought I was upset with the money - the money is fine! I was upset with the idea that you can&#039;t write for magazines on the same subject, which is a slap in the face to freelance writers. I can understand not competing in the same market on another blog, thats good business. But most writers who take on a subject usually write for multiple publications. If your goal is to be a professional freelance writer and makey money doing it you&#039;ll have to write for more than one market. 

BUT, most people don&#039;t fit that category. And it is good money for blogging. I&#039;m fine with that. I&#039;ve seen elsewhere that other bloggers at Weblogs Inc make more, so I imagine that it depends on how well the blog does. The pay is pretty fair for the kind of writing required. If they wanted 125 750-1000 word articles then I&#039;d call them nut jobs, but they are asking for blog posts, which should be a breeze. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been outspoken about the contract, but not about the money. People thought I was upset with the money &#8211; the money is fine! I was upset with the idea that you can&#8217;t write for magazines on the same subject, which is a slap in the face to freelance writers. I can understand not competing in the same market on another blog, thats good business. But most writers who take on a subject usually write for multiple publications. If your goal is to be a professional freelance writer and makey money doing it you&#8217;ll have to write for more than one market. </p>
<p>BUT, most people don&#8217;t fit that category. And it is good money for blogging. I&#8217;m fine with that. I&#8217;ve seen elsewhere that other bloggers at Weblogs Inc make more, so I imagine that it depends on how well the blog does. The pay is pretty fair for the kind of writing required. If they wanted 125 750-1000 word articles then I&#8217;d call them nut jobs, but they are asking for blog posts, which should be a breeze.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pavlina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think whether $4 per post ($500 per month) seems good or not depends on your personal opportunity cost -- what else might you do with your time, and how else could you earn that $500?  Many people see the amount as too low because they could easily make that equivalent amount of money or more for a lot less work -- this is especially true of bloggers with a technical background who earn above average salaries.  But relative to a college student with no sources of income, it&#039;s probably an exciting prospect.

I think one reason many bloggers struggle to make more than $500 a month from their blogs is because they focus on themselves and their own needs more than on their readers.

Being a best-writing author pays nothing; being a best-selling author pays a lot.  $500 per month is not difficult to make with a blog part-time, and you don&#039;t need to post 4x per day to do it.  5x per week is plenty, but this only works if you&#039;re writing something people seriously want to read and which provides a genuine benefit to them for doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think whether $4 per post ($500 per month) seems good or not depends on your personal opportunity cost &#8212; what else might you do with your time, and how else could you earn that $500?  Many people see the amount as too low because they could easily make that equivalent amount of money or more for a lot less work &#8212; this is especially true of bloggers with a technical background who earn above average salaries.  But relative to a college student with no sources of income, it&#8217;s probably an exciting prospect.</p>
<p>I think one reason many bloggers struggle to make more than $500 a month from their blogs is because they focus on themselves and their own needs more than on their readers.</p>
<p>Being a best-writing author pays nothing; being a best-selling author pays a lot.  $500 per month is not difficult to make with a blog part-time, and you don&#8217;t need to post 4x per day to do it.  5x per week is plenty, but this only works if you&#8217;re writing something people seriously want to read and which provides a genuine benefit to them for doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Craven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Craven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some of the criticism on this issue being labeled at Weblogs, Inc, and Jason in particular is unfair.  He&#039;s running a business and that contract includes steps to protect that business - it&#039;s nothing different than any other responsible CEO would do...

$500 a month is not a small amount of money - it&#039;s a third of my mortgage for example - and more than what my rent was in college just ten years ago - and as you outline here, it&#039;s alot more than what many bloggers make from their sites today.

Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of the criticism on this issue being labeled at Weblogs, Inc, and Jason in particular is unfair.  He&#8217;s running a business and that contract includes steps to protect that business &#8211; it&#8217;s nothing different than any other responsible CEO would do&#8230;</p>
<p>$500 a month is not a small amount of money &#8211; it&#8217;s a third of my mortgage for example &#8211; and more than what my rent was in college just ten years ago &#8211; and as you outline here, it&#8217;s alot more than what many bloggers make from their sites today.</p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: LcF</title>
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		<dc:creator>LcF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So am I in the top 5% :D</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Short</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2005/08/29/time-for-a-long-cold-shower-on-blogging-pay-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-45705</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;The top 5% of bloggers seeking dollars make up the $150 and more category.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Cool. I&#039;m in the top 5% of something, but am investing it all back into the network and then some. Invest small amounts now and reap great rewards in the future, that&#039;s my plan ;-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>The top 5% of bloggers seeking dollars make up the $150 and more category.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Cool. I&#8217;m in the top 5% of something, but am investing it all back into the network and then some. Invest small amounts now and reap great rewards in the future, that&#8217;s my plan ;-)</p>
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