Comments on: A quick guide to referencing http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/ The leading source of news covering social media and the blogosphere. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:30:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Give Credit When Credit is Due: Skip The Middle Man : The Blog Herald http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-201270 Give Credit When Credit is Due: Skip The Middle Man : The Blog Herald Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:07:39 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-201270 [...] Blog Herald’s A Quick Guide to Referencing and Ethics and Blogging Attribution Where Due are must reads for the blogger who cites other [...] [...] Blog Herald’s A Quick Guide to Referencing and Ethics and Blogging Attribution Where Due are must reads for the blogger who cites other [...]

]]> By: Blogs, references and hyperlinks at Mustafa Arif http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-136150 Blogs, references and hyperlinks at Mustafa Arif Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:59:32 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-136150 [...] Back to referencing: I stumbled across A quick guide to referencing [The Blog Herald], and it seemed fairly reasonable. The trouble is that it deals only with the easy part – when to create a hyperlink for referencing purposes. We’ve already dealt with bad hyperlinks of the “click here� ilk. I’m troubled by this quote from the author: The link can be either on the name of the author, or on the short reference “a good question� or the long part “how much Yahoo! paid for Flickr�. There are no strict rules on where to base your link on an indirect reference. [...] [...] Back to referencing: I stumbled across A quick guide to referencing [The Blog Herald], and it seemed fairly reasonable. The trouble is that it deals only with the easy part – when to create a hyperlink for referencing purposes. We’ve already dealt with bad hyperlinks of the “click here� ilk. I’m troubled by this quote from the author: The link can be either on the name of the author, or on the short reference “a good question� or the long part “how much Yahoo! paid for Flickr�. There are no strict rules on where to base your link on an indirect reference. [...]

]]> By: QuickBits: September 16, 2005 : Internet Home Business :: HomeOfficeVoice http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-48090 QuickBits: September 16, 2005 : Internet Home Business :: HomeOfficeVoice Fri, 16 Sep 2005 03:44:31 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-48090 [...] rrupted this week when the issue of content theft and referencing was raised - here, here, here and here. But with the release of a dedicated blog searc [...] [...] rrupted this week when the issue of content theft and referencing was raised – here, here, here and here. But with the release of a dedicated blog searc [...]

]]> By: Blog Blog » Blog Archive » Stealing Blog Content http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-47806 Blog Blog » Blog Archive » Stealing Blog Content Wed, 14 Sep 2005 04:51:33 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-47806 [...] ere, but today’s blogs ‘went-off’ on this topic. See here: Problogger, Blog Herald By: Robyn Tippins | 2005/09/14 | Rants - B [...] [...] ere, but today’s blogs ‘went-off’ on this topic. See here: Problogger, Blog Herald By: Robyn Tippins | 2005/09/14 | Rants – B [...]

]]> By: martin http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-47780 martin Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:05:42 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-47780 Duncan, great reference guide and everything you write I agree 100% with ... should be a permanent link somewhere for all bloggers to read. Oh yeah, being in the press release industry and escaping it ;-) a direct media release from a company is a free-for-all. That's exactly what they want: for it to be published as is. Ayone can simply place the full media release on their blog and be happy with that - someone with more editorial instincts would use the release as part of a greater story (ie: many, many parts of a press releases are pure fluff). I'm also very generous with my links, I think it's just common courtesy - and Steve has a point in his comments. You find a souce for a story, write it up and then do a google or technorati search and find a dozen others have written about it. What do you do? Firstly, if I'm pulling content I would attribute it (that's a given) and I would also acknowedlege the original source where I got the idea from (even if I don't take any of their content). Unfortunately, we all in the blogging world have to learn a little about the journalism game: stories spread like wild fire, the idea of a story is not yours to keep. Your written word yes it is. Once you have written it many will take your story further and run with it or go in a different direction without ackowledgement. That's just the nature of the game. Duncan, great reference guide and everything you write I agree 100% with … should be a permanent link somewhere for all bloggers to read.

Oh yeah, being in the press release industry and escaping it ;-) a direct media release from a company is a free-for-all. That’s exactly what they want: for it to be published as is. Ayone can simply place the full media release on their blog and be happy with that – someone with more editorial instincts would use the release as part of a greater story (ie: many, many parts of a press releases are pure fluff).

I’m also very generous with my links, I think it’s just common courtesy – and Steve has a point in his comments. You find a souce for a story, write it up and then do a google or technorati search and find a dozen others have written about it. What do you do?

Firstly, if I’m pulling content I would attribute it (that’s a given) and I would also acknowedlege the original source where I got the idea from (even if I don’t take any of their content).

Unfortunately, we all in the blogging world have to learn a little about the journalism game: stories spread like wild fire, the idea of a story is not yours to keep. Your written word yes it is. Once you have written it many will take your story further and run with it or go in a different direction without ackowledgement. That’s just the nature of the game.

]]> By: Greg Burton http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-47713 Greg Burton Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:19:18 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-47713 Steve - because I also blog a lot of press releases, I've seen a story I did get picked up by a couple of blogs, then MSM, reasonably often. And I've seen it go the other way, too. Neither one bothers me. Like Duncan said, if it's an exact turn of phrase, or you took the material, that's one thing. Independent discovery is another. And face it, other people have exactly the same rss feeds (in some cases) as we do. Not their problem, and not our problem. It also probably helps if you're on good terms with the other bloggers in your niche(s). Steve – because I also blog a lot of press releases, I’ve seen a story I did get picked up by a couple of blogs, then MSM, reasonably often. And I’ve seen it go the other way, too. Neither one bothers me.

Like Duncan said, if it’s an exact turn of phrase, or you took the material, that’s one thing. Independent discovery is another. And face it, other people have exactly the same rss feeds (in some cases) as we do. Not their problem, and not our problem. It also probably helps if you’re on good terms with the other bloggers in your niche(s).

]]> By: Charles http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-47682 Charles Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:19:41 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-47682 Thanks for the reference guide. On one point, if I have a quotation within a sentence, I use quotation marks, but when using block quotations I follow the academic style of not using quotation marks. Thanks for the reference guide. On one point, if I have a quotation within a sentence, I use quotation marks, but when using block quotations I follow the academic style of not using quotation marks.

]]> By: » A moral tale of linking The Blog Herald: more blog news more often http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-47678 » A moral tale of linking The Blog Herald: more blog news more often Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:38:30 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-47678 [...] f linking Related entries in Guides I was just writing a comment on the post on referencing and the words sounded so good they needed their [...] [...] f linking
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]]> By: Duncan http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-47676 Duncan Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:12:59 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-47676 Steve the difference here is only a moral one I suppose, if you found the info yourself your the source, if others have blogged it but your not aware they have then you don't have to credit them, but if you got the idea from them then you should. Its a fine line, in the stuff with WebProNews for example Miller was taking stuff from the Blog Herald in one example, provable by the se of the exact turn of phrase, if he hadn't used that term I wouldn't have a case, sure, Id suspect it, but it can only be proved because of the term. Honestly, treat others as you would like to be treated in terms of referencing a links, we all love links, sure, I tend to be generous with them, but I'm generous with links because I want to be linked back, and its certainly doing ok for me so far :-) Steve
the difference here is only a moral one I suppose, if you found the info yourself your the source, if others have blogged it but your not aware they have then you don’t have to credit them, but if you got the idea from them then you should. Its a fine line, in the stuff with WebProNews for example Miller was taking stuff from the Blog Herald in one example, provable by the se of the exact turn of phrase, if he hadn’t used that term I wouldn’t have a case, sure, Id suspect it, but it can only be proved because of the term.

Honestly, treat others as you would like to be treated in terms of referencing a links, we all love links, sure, I tend to be generous with them, but I’m generous with links because I want to be linked back, and its certainly doing ok for me so far :-)

]]> By: Steve Johnson http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-47675 Steve Johnson Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:56:28 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-47675 I certainly agree that offering a link back to your source is good policy. While much of the stuff I blog about on SNP comes from press releases, much of it still comes from my own web browsing. I'll spend hours perusing manufacturer sites from one to another, following links to various products, or doing Google searches. Eventually, I find someting worth blogging about. But before I blog it, I'll run a search on Technorati and Google to see if it has been blogged before. If it was blogged by only a few other small blogs, I'll go ahead blog it. But I don't credit the other blogs because they didn't help me find the material. Is this unethical? I get the feeling that these other blogs may be complaining that I "stole" their content idea. I certainly agree that offering a link back to your source is good policy. While much of the stuff I blog about on SNP comes from press releases, much of it still comes from my own web browsing.

I’ll spend hours perusing manufacturer sites from one to another, following links to various products, or doing Google searches. Eventually, I find someting worth blogging about. But before I blog it, I’ll run a search on Technorati and Google to see if it has been blogged before. If it was blogged by only a few other small blogs, I’ll go ahead blog it. But I don’t credit the other blogs because they didn’t help me find the material. Is this unethical?

I get the feeling that these other blogs may be complaining that I “stole” their content idea.

]]> By: derkilicious » A quick guide to referencing http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-47664 derkilicious » A quick guide to referencing Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:17:00 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-47664 [...] ency to respect each others work? For that reason, I felt it appropriate that I share this quick guide to referencing posted on The Blog Herald. Check it out if have a [...] [...] ency to respect each others work? For that reason, I felt it appropriate that I share this quick guide to referencing posted on The Blog Herald. Check it out if have a [...]

]]> By: graywolf http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/comment-page-1/#comment-47661 graywolf Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:08:34 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2005/09/12/a-quick-guide-to-referencing/#comment-47661 Now if you really want to make blogging friends you can hook them up with some prime optimal anchor text that is similar to the heading of the post. Now if you really want to make blogging friends you can hook them up with some prime optimal anchor text that is similar to the heading of the post.

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