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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2005/11/28/registering-to-make-comments-why-it-wont-work-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-73321</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any significant portion, that is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any significant portion, that is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2005/11/28/registering-to-make-comments-why-it-wont-work-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-73320</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care what platform a blog is on or care to determine it. If the site is not one I will be visiting VERY frequently and participating in often, I won&#039;t bother to register to comment. I feel registration is a huge barrier to user feedback. Sure, you&#039;ll get some feedback, but don&#039;t trick yourself into thinking you&#039;re getting any portion of the people who even want to comment if it weren&#039;t for that barrier. It&#039;s not worth my time to set up another account and try to remember what it is (especially since I may surf from multiple computers). Case in point, if this site required registration, I would not have commented...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care what platform a blog is on or care to determine it. If the site is not one I will be visiting VERY frequently and participating in often, I won&#8217;t bother to register to comment. I feel registration is a huge barrier to user feedback. Sure, you&#8217;ll get some feedback, but don&#8217;t trick yourself into thinking you&#8217;re getting any portion of the people who even want to comment if it weren&#8217;t for that barrier. It&#8217;s not worth my time to set up another account and try to remember what it is (especially since I may surf from multiple computers). Case in point, if this site required registration, I would not have commented&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Ejtel</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2005/11/28/registering-to-make-comments-why-it-wont-work-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-73112</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Ejtel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The initial design of the reader account wasnâ€™t only for spam prevention. If youâ€™ve ever signed up for an account you may have noticed you can login at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogware.com/users&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reader Account URL&lt;/a&gt; to access a cool little set of social networking features such as the ability to manage friends lists, review information on all of the powers you have in Blogware such as what blogs you own, which ones you have sub author rights to or the ability to view restricted content in, as well as design a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogware.com/profiles/pejtel/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;profile page&lt;/a&gt; where you can upload a picture and set permissions on who may view it.


In all actuality, reader account authentication as a way to prevent comment spam when implemented roughly three years ago was almost an afterthought so weâ€™d have the ability to globally delete comments when an offender was identified. Being in the email spam business already, we knew this would be a big issue someday and although it hasnâ€™t worked out as the ideal implementation that John mentions is being improved on, itâ€™s definitely worked out for a lot of users compared to leaving them to figure it all out on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The initial design of the reader account wasnâ€™t only for spam prevention. If youâ€™ve ever signed up for an account you may have noticed you can login at the <a href="http://www.blogware.com/users" rel="nofollow">Reader Account URL</a> to access a cool little set of social networking features such as the ability to manage friends lists, review information on all of the powers you have in Blogware such as what blogs you own, which ones you have sub author rights to or the ability to view restricted content in, as well as design a <a href="http://www.blogware.com/profiles/pejtel/index.html" rel="nofollow">profile page</a> where you can upload a picture and set permissions on who may view it.</p>
<p>In all actuality, reader account authentication as a way to prevent comment spam when implemented roughly three years ago was almost an afterthought so weâ€™d have the ability to globally delete comments when an offender was identified. Being in the email spam business already, we knew this would be a big issue someday and although it hasnâ€™t worked out as the ideal implementation that John mentions is being improved on, itâ€™s definitely worked out for a lot of users compared to leaving them to figure it all out on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: John Keegan</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2005/11/28/registering-to-make-comments-why-it-wont-work-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-73084</link>
		<dc:creator>John Keegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make some good points, Duncan. FYI, the commenting system on our platform will see enhancements in the near future which will allow our publishers more flexibility when it comes to commenting, and &quot;signed but non-authenticated&quot; commenting will be an option. So we&#039;ve already been listening to our customers on some of these points and will be working on enhancements accordingly.

But as Zoli points out, we&#039;re talking about a registration system which allows you to comment on thousands of Blogware-based blogs, not just a single blog. You yourself wrote about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogherald.com/2004/03/22/why-im-for-typekey/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;why you&#039;re all for TypeKey&lt;/a&gt;. How do you see this as being different than TypeKey? How could you be all for TypeKey but be against another vendors implementation of a similiar concept? And for the record, our system was in place long before TypeKey was released... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some good points, Duncan. FYI, the commenting system on our platform will see enhancements in the near future which will allow our publishers more flexibility when it comes to commenting, and &#8220;signed but non-authenticated&#8221; commenting will be an option. So we&#8217;ve already been listening to our customers on some of these points and will be working on enhancements accordingly.</p>
<p>But as Zoli points out, we&#8217;re talking about a registration system which allows you to comment on thousands of Blogware-based blogs, not just a single blog. You yourself wrote about <a href="http://www.blogherald.com/2004/03/22/why-im-for-typekey/" rel="nofollow">why you&#8217;re all for TypeKey</a>. How do you see this as being different than TypeKey? How could you be all for TypeKey but be against another vendors implementation of a similiar concept? And for the record, our system was in place long before TypeKey was released&#8230; ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy @ blogvp</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2005/11/28/registering-to-make-comments-why-it-wont-work-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-73077</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy @ blogvp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you Duncan, usually when I see that I have to register to leave comments I just skip it. I think with the tools that we have to filter out spam and prevent spam in the first place it makes sense to offer as little resistance as possible to interaction.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you Duncan, usually when I see that I have to register to leave comments I just skip it. I think with the tools that we have to filter out spam and prevent spam in the first place it makes sense to offer as little resistance as possible to interaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you Duncan, it doesn&#039;t matter to me if it&#039;s Type Key, Tucows or a tornado, I am not interested in registering just to leave a comment.

It&#039;s been proven that you can accept comments without a registration process, so as the customer, I&#039;ll take my business somewhere else until the blog ownwers make it simple ( my favorite word ) for me to interact with them.

It ain&#039;t that hard folks, to have a real blog on a real blogging platform with a real domain name.

Need help ? Call me and I&#039;ll have my staff set it up and host it for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you Duncan, it doesn&#8217;t matter to me if it&#8217;s Type Key, Tucows or a tornado, I am not interested in registering just to leave a comment.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been proven that you can accept comments without a registration process, so as the customer, I&#8217;ll take my business somewhere else until the blog ownwers make it simple ( my favorite word ) for me to interact with them.</p>
<p>It ain&#8217;t that hard folks, to have a real blog on a real blogging platform with a real domain name.</p>
<p>Need help ? Call me and I&#8217;ll have my staff set it up and host it for you.</p>
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		<title>By: dave f</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2005/11/28/registering-to-make-comments-why-it-wont-work-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-73046</link>
		<dc:creator>dave f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious-- why limit the discussion to universal logins like Typekey or Blogware?  What about individual blogs that require you to register for their particular site?  Lots of those out there too.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious&#8211; why limit the discussion to universal logins like Typekey or Blogware?  What about individual blogs that require you to register for their particular site?  Lots of those out there too.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli Erdos</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2005/11/28/registering-to-make-comments-why-it-wont-work-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-73040</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoli Erdos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure everyone realizes what &quot;registration&quot; means here.  It&#039;s a one time action per blogging platform, and there really are only 4-5 major hosted platforms.

   Typepad has Typekey
   Blogware has reader accounts
   etc ...

Once you create your id on those systems, you are authenticated for ALL blogs created on the platform.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure everyone realizes what &#8220;registration&#8221; means here.  It&#8217;s a one time action per blogging platform, and there really are only 4-5 major hosted platforms.</p>
<p>   Typepad has Typekey<br />
   Blogware has reader accounts<br />
   etc &#8230;</p>
<p>Once you create your id on those systems, you are authenticated for ALL blogs created on the platform.</p>
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am about 80% less likely to leave a comment if I have to register. Usually I&#039;ll only do it if the post is really good and/or I feel very strongly about what was written</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am about 80% less likely to leave a comment if I have to register. Usually I&#8217;ll only do it if the post is really good and/or I feel very strongly about what was written</p>
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		<title>By: ME "Liz" Strauss</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2005/11/28/registering-to-make-comments-why-it-wont-work-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-72988</link>
		<dc:creator>ME "Liz" Strauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind the registration when it sticks as it does on blogharbor, I&#039;ll do it once. But not twice, especially if I have to find my way back through a mire of screen to get to what I wanted to comment on. I&#039;m old and by that time I do that I&#039;ve forgotten what it is I wanted to say. The pain is that after registration I still have to do the darn word verification anyway. Can&#039;t they just ask for my first born child? His college bills could be theirs and I would have less haslles. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind the registration when it sticks as it does on blogharbor, I&#8217;ll do it once. But not twice, especially if I have to find my way back through a mire of screen to get to what I wanted to comment on. I&#8217;m old and by that time I do that I&#8217;ve forgotten what it is I wanted to say. The pain is that after registration I still have to do the darn word verification anyway. Can&#8217;t they just ask for my first born child? His college bills could be theirs and I would have less haslles. :)</p>
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		<title>By: dave f</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2005/11/28/registering-to-make-comments-why-it-wont-work-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-72982</link>
		<dc:creator>dave f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. I&#039;m registered to comment on several blogs, and I know of several highly commented blogs that require registration to leave comments.  Not to mention that 99% of message boards require registration and people still use those quite heavily.

People who really want to participate in the dialogue will take a few seconds to register.  I&#039;ve I&#039;ve got something to say, 2 or 3 forum fields aren&#039;t going to stop me from saying it. What registration cuts down on, in addition to spam, is pointless drive-by comments, and comment trolls. I&#039;m all for it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. I&#8217;m registered to comment on several blogs, and I know of several highly commented blogs that require registration to leave comments.  Not to mention that 99% of message boards require registration and people still use those quite heavily.</p>
<p>People who really want to participate in the dialogue will take a few seconds to register.  I&#8217;ve I&#8217;ve got something to say, 2 or 3 forum fields aren&#8217;t going to stop me from saying it. What registration cuts down on, in addition to spam, is pointless drive-by comments, and comment trolls. I&#8217;m all for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli Erdos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoli Erdos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 06:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan, I would certainly welcome your comments. The registration may appear a painful step, but you only need it once, than it&#039;s valid not just on Blogharbor, but on all blogs supported by the Blogware (Tucows) platform.  It&#039;s just like Typekey for the Typepad accounts ... a small step towards authentication, please don&#039;t tell me this is what stops you from leaving a comment.

Btw, I am not entirely happy with the way blogware implemented commenting, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clicktohit.com/blog/_archives/2005/10/24/1319757.html#502702&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this thread&lt;/a&gt; on their BizDev manager&#039;s blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan, I would certainly welcome your comments. The registration may appear a painful step, but you only need it once, than it&#8217;s valid not just on Blogharbor, but on all blogs supported by the Blogware (Tucows) platform.  It&#8217;s just like Typekey for the Typepad accounts &#8230; a small step towards authentication, please don&#8217;t tell me this is what stops you from leaving a comment.</p>
<p>Btw, I am not entirely happy with the way blogware implemented commenting, see <a href="http://www.clicktohit.com/blog/_archives/2005/10/24/1319757.html#502702" rel="nofollow">this thread</a> on their BizDev manager&#8217;s blog.</p>
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