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	<title>Comments on: Dead or Alive &#8211; The AdSense Wars</title>
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		<title>By: Martin Neumann</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-125575</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Neumann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - Thanks for the great insight.

But for every person like you who earns $7k plus a month there would be tens of thousands earning a fraction of that - and they&#039;re not happy. :) 

My feeling is that too many thought it would be an easy ride and no real thought was made of what happens when new blogs (in their thousands) enter the fray.

So it all boils down to creating quality content (lots of timeless content I see helps, which I think is your real secret) in a solid niche and not just following the pack - simple advice but very, very true.

&lt;b&gt;...those who stay out of the fight and focus on providing real value for their visitors.&lt;/b&gt;

Spot on. They&#039;re the true success stories. You don&#039;t hear from them, how much they did or did not earn. They just go ahead and do their job.

BTW, isn&#039;t it sad that in our current cynical times one must preface a comment with &quot;I don&#039;t sell any ...&quot; just so you don&#039;t get shot down as being conflicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; Thanks for the great insight.</p>
<p>But for every person like you who earns $7k plus a month there would be tens of thousands earning a fraction of that &#8211; and they&#8217;re not happy. :) </p>
<p>My feeling is that too many thought it would be an easy ride and no real thought was made of what happens when new blogs (in their thousands) enter the fray.</p>
<p>So it all boils down to creating quality content (lots of timeless content I see helps, which I think is your real secret) in a solid niche and not just following the pack &#8211; simple advice but very, very true.</p>
<p><b>&#8230;those who stay out of the fight and focus on providing real value for their visitors.</b></p>
<p>Spot on. They&#8217;re the true success stories. You don&#8217;t hear from them, how much they did or did not earn. They just go ahead and do their job.</p>
<p>BTW, isn&#8217;t it sad that in our current cynical times one must preface a comment with &#8220;I don&#8217;t sell any &#8230;&#8221; just so you don&#8217;t get shot down as being conflicted.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pavlina</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-125520</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t sell any Adsense info products, but I can say that my Adsense earnings keep going up and up.  Last month I earned over $7K from Adsense and only made 13 new blog posts.  I also made another $5K from a combo of other ad revenue sources, donations, and affiliate income... so $12K total.

My ad revenue has been growing faster than my traffic, partly because my Adsense CPMs have gone up considerably this year.  Last month they were higher than ever.  If Adsense is cracking, I&#039;ve seen no direct evidence of it.

I suspect what&#039;s happening is that certain segments (like internet marketing perhaps) are undergoing a market correction.  There&#039;s so much info-bloat out there now that the high CPC ads may be getting spread thinner and thinner, pushing down revenues for bloggers in those fields.  So if you blog about the same topics everyone else is writing about, you create a bigger field for advertisers, which drives down your CPMs.  In effect your market becomes a commodity.

In other segments I think the opposite is happening.  The number of people creating quality content doesn&#039;t grow as fast as the ad money pouring in, so there&#039;s more advertiser competition for targeted exposure.  Consequently, CPMs go up.

I wouldn&#039;t say that Adsense is cracking.  I just think we&#039;re seeing a natural market adjustment.  I suspect it&#039;s negatively affecting those who are most vocal about it, and the more vocal they become, the more info-bloat is created, and the more they hurt themselves by continuing to drive down CPMs in their field.

Of course, as already mentioned in the original post above, this situation creates a tremendous opportunity for the contrarian.  When ships start sinking, somebody&#039;s making a killing as an expert on why ships sink.

The stable opportunities, however, are still available for those who stay out of the fight and focus on providing real value for their visitors.  And the big losers are those who remain paralyzed by indecision on the sidelines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t sell any Adsense info products, but I can say that my Adsense earnings keep going up and up.  Last month I earned over $7K from Adsense and only made 13 new blog posts.  I also made another $5K from a combo of other ad revenue sources, donations, and affiliate income&#8230; so $12K total.</p>
<p>My ad revenue has been growing faster than my traffic, partly because my Adsense CPMs have gone up considerably this year.  Last month they were higher than ever.  If Adsense is cracking, I&#8217;ve seen no direct evidence of it.</p>
<p>I suspect what&#8217;s happening is that certain segments (like internet marketing perhaps) are undergoing a market correction.  There&#8217;s so much info-bloat out there now that the high CPC ads may be getting spread thinner and thinner, pushing down revenues for bloggers in those fields.  So if you blog about the same topics everyone else is writing about, you create a bigger field for advertisers, which drives down your CPMs.  In effect your market becomes a commodity.</p>
<p>In other segments I think the opposite is happening.  The number of people creating quality content doesn&#8217;t grow as fast as the ad money pouring in, so there&#8217;s more advertiser competition for targeted exposure.  Consequently, CPMs go up.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that Adsense is cracking.  I just think we&#8217;re seeing a natural market adjustment.  I suspect it&#8217;s negatively affecting those who are most vocal about it, and the more vocal they become, the more info-bloat is created, and the more they hurt themselves by continuing to drive down CPMs in their field.</p>
<p>Of course, as already mentioned in the original post above, this situation creates a tremendous opportunity for the contrarian.  When ships start sinking, somebody&#8217;s making a killing as an expert on why ships sink.</p>
<p>The stable opportunities, however, are still available for those who stay out of the fight and focus on providing real value for their visitors.  And the big losers are those who remain paralyzed by indecision on the sidelines.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-124554</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian - true, not very innovative, but then if you&#039;ve got a desperate market screaming to be served sometimes innovation can screw things up - he&#039;s just gone straight for the throat with this one.

And just like you, I&#039;m watching this very closely.

I&#039;m more interested in the collective blogosphere&#039;s reaction to this technique and any product marketing that will follow. I believe the blogosphere has a very good BS detector so I&#039;m just sitting back and taking it all in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211; true, not very innovative, but then if you&#8217;ve got a desperate market screaming to be served sometimes innovation can screw things up &#8211; he&#8217;s just gone straight for the throat with this one.</p>
<p>And just like you, I&#8217;m watching this very closely.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more interested in the collective blogosphere&#8217;s reaction to this technique and any product marketing that will follow. I believe the blogosphere has a very good BS detector so I&#8217;m just sitting back and taking it all in.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-124550</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin, it&#039;s still a well-executed marketing plan.  It&#039;s just not innovative.

Should be fun to see how it works out.  That&#039;s how the rest of us learn. :)

And yes, the genius here was the market approach... plenty of disgruntled people that were sold the &quot;AdSense Dream&quot; are now ripe for something new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, it&#8217;s still a well-executed marketing plan.  It&#8217;s just not innovative.</p>
<p>Should be fun to see how it works out.  That&#8217;s how the rest of us learn. :)</p>
<p>And yes, the genius here was the market approach&#8230; plenty of disgruntled people that were sold the &#8220;AdSense Dream&#8221; are now ripe for something new.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-124548</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Brian&lt;/b&gt; - I see :) I wasn&#039;t seeing anything into this 50 cent thing or even gave it a thought. Just a gimmick - I hope nobody thought they&#039;d get rich from it... ;)

As in my previous comment, I focused on what seems to have been a well-executed marketing plan. But now I&#039;m watching if there&#039;s any cynical/jaded backlash. I expect some. How much is the big question.

&lt;b&gt;Darren&lt;/b&gt; - you&#039;re right. 30,000 could easily be only 20,000 or 10,000 or even 1,000 - but still it all depends on what he&#039;s selling, and he&#039;s picked a ripe market: those not happy with AdSense.

Lots of hype to live up to now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Brian</b> &#8211; I see :) I wasn&#8217;t seeing anything into this 50 cent thing or even gave it a thought. Just a gimmick &#8211; I hope nobody thought they&#8217;d get rich from it&#8230; ;)</p>
<p>As in my previous comment, I focused on what seems to have been a well-executed marketing plan. But now I&#8217;m watching if there&#8217;s any cynical/jaded backlash. I expect some. How much is the big question.</p>
<p><b>Darren</b> &#8211; you&#8217;re right. 30,000 could easily be only 20,000 or 10,000 or even 1,000 &#8211; but still it all depends on what he&#8217;s selling, and he&#8217;s picked a ripe market: those not happy with AdSense.</p>
<p>Lots of hype to live up to now.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-124458</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin, come on:

1.  50 cents per opt-in subscriber for affiliates
2.  50 cents per opt-in subscriber for affiliates
3.  50 cents per opt-in subscriber for affiliates
4.  Immediately recruit new subscribers to recruit new subscribers for...
5.  50 cents per opt-in subscriber for affiliates

Still a great marketing plan, but not new (at all), especially in this day and age of organic viral.  I don&#039;t have anything against it at all, but spending money does not make one a genius.

But, best $15k they ever promised to spend (but haven&#039;t yet paid out). :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, come on:</p>
<p>1.  50 cents per opt-in subscriber for affiliates<br />
2.  50 cents per opt-in subscriber for affiliates<br />
3.  50 cents per opt-in subscriber for affiliates<br />
4.  Immediately recruit new subscribers to recruit new subscribers for&#8230;<br />
5.  50 cents per opt-in subscriber for affiliates</p>
<p>Still a great marketing plan, but not new (at all), especially in this day and age of organic viral.  I don&#8217;t have anything against it at all, but spending money does not make one a genius.</p>
<p>But, best $15k they ever promised to spend (but haven&#8217;t yet paid out). :)</p>
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		<title>By: Darren McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-124456</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This cracks me up: &quot;30,000+ subscribers canâ€™t be wrong.&quot;

Sure they can.  Do you think any of those emails might start bouncing?  Most of the interest came from SEO forums and the like.  I doubt this list will stand the test of time, especially when the hype wears off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This cracks me up: &#8220;30,000+ subscribers canâ€™t be wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure they can.  Do you think any of those emails might start bouncing?  Most of the interest came from SEO forums and the like.  I doubt this list will stand the test of time, especially when the hype wears off.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Neumann</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-124195</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Neumann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian - I&#039;ll let you explain it better but all I can say is that this has been probably the best marketing play of the year - probably even bigger than your viral report. :)

1. Pick a strong topic (making money)
2. great headline (all of 4 words - &quot;The Death of AdSense&quot;)
3. attack the big names (guaranteed instant traffic generator)
4. and ride this horse all the way.

Now, this can also be achieved if both sides are in on the act - actually works better that way, but either way will do.

Also, make it look like you&#039;re flying by the seat of your pants producing &quot;updates&quot; and new reports when in fact it was all probably polished and ready to go weeks ago.

We&#039;ve all been given a lesson in info product marketing 101.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211; I&#8217;ll let you explain it better but all I can say is that this has been probably the best marketing play of the year &#8211; probably even bigger than your viral report. :)</p>
<p>1. Pick a strong topic (making money)<br />
2. great headline (all of 4 words &#8211; &#8220;The Death of AdSense&#8221;)<br />
3. attack the big names (guaranteed instant traffic generator)<br />
4. and ride this horse all the way.</p>
<p>Now, this can also be achieved if both sides are in on the act &#8211; actually works better that way, but either way will do.</p>
<p>Also, make it look like you&#8217;re flying by the seat of your pants producing &#8220;updates&#8221; and new reports when in fact it was all probably polished and ready to go weeks ago.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all been given a lesson in info product marketing 101.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-124135</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;By going after the AdSense guruâ€™s heâ€™s played them all for a joke and reached a critical mass in quick time â€¦ 30,000+ subscribers canâ€™t be wrong.

Do you want me to explain how that actually happened, or should you? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;By going after the AdSense guruâ€™s heâ€™s played them all for a joke and reached a critical mass in quick time â€¦ 30,000+ subscribers canâ€™t be wrong.</p>
<p>Do you want me to explain how that actually happened, or should you? :)</p>
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		<title>By: Darren McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-124110</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Adsense is Dead&quot; complete with Pirate Ship logo.  This is a marketing campaign designed to impress morons.  Did it work?

Of course Adsense isn&#039;t dead.  Google&#039;s Adsense revenue in the last quarter was down 2%, but it was due to seasonality.  

Adsense, unfortunately, is still the big winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Adsense is Dead&#8221; complete with Pirate Ship logo.  This is a marketing campaign designed to impress morons.  Did it work?</p>
<p>Of course Adsense isn&#8217;t dead.  Google&#8217;s Adsense revenue in the last quarter was down 2%, but it was due to seasonality.  </p>
<p>Adsense, unfortunately, is still the big winner.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Neumann</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-124016</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Neumann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on, Duncan - all evidence points to that, all things being equal, AdSense earnings are way down from last year - there&#039;s no denying that - although I&#039;m sure some of the &quot;Guru&#039;s&quot; will find an excuse ... maybe you&#039;re not trying hard enough. ;)

And your moral to all this is always timeless ... and always will be.

Another moral: don&#039;t believe everything the so-called &quot;guru&#039;s&quot; tell you - BTW. how does one become a guru? Is there a official ceremony or do you simply self-appoint yourself. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on, Duncan &#8211; all evidence points to that, all things being equal, AdSense earnings are way down from last year &#8211; there&#8217;s no denying that &#8211; although I&#8217;m sure some of the &#8220;Guru&#8217;s&#8221; will find an excuse &#8230; maybe you&#8217;re not trying hard enough. ;)</p>
<p>And your moral to all this is always timeless &#8230; and always will be.</p>
<p>Another moral: don&#8217;t believe everything the so-called &#8220;guru&#8217;s&#8221; tell you &#8211; BTW. how does one become a guru? Is there a official ceremony or do you simply self-appoint yourself. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-123972</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s important to note that in the Adsense is dead book, they aren&#039;t saying Adsense is dead dead, just it isn&#039;t what it use to be...ie, this wonderful huge grows on trees money making opportunity (well atleast the After Adsense book, the follow up to Adsense is Dead said this was what they were saying). No one is making the same dollars they were on adsense 12 months ago, full stop, unless they&#039;ve significantly increased traffic on existing sites. Moral of the story: never put all your eggs in one basket :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s important to note that in the Adsense is dead book, they aren&#8217;t saying Adsense is dead dead, just it isn&#8217;t what it use to be&#8230;ie, this wonderful huge grows on trees money making opportunity (well atleast the After Adsense book, the follow up to Adsense is Dead said this was what they were saying). No one is making the same dollars they were on adsense 12 months ago, full stop, unless they&#8217;ve significantly increased traffic on existing sites. Moral of the story: never put all your eggs in one basket :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Neumann</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/09/27/dead-or-alive-the-adsense-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-123946</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Neumann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 04:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - I see the craze/fad that was AdSense for the last 18 months beginning to fade, with a swag of others taking their place. AdSense can, and should, be just one part of your overall revenue strategy.

Text Link Ads is one that has crept up on me. I&#039;ve just started to try it out this month and I&#039;m surprised by how quickly it has built up some revenue.

Maybe we&#039;re going full circle with all of this - back to affiliate marketing and Cost Per Action (CPA).

It does make sense to me. An AdSense click is no guarantee for a action that the AdWords buyer desires. Whereas a CPA makes the publisher work that extra harder and because of that an advertiser would be willing to pay much more for leads and clicks that lead to some action.

But I think the extra work may put many off and we might see less blogs surviving or bothering to start up - AdSense just made everything too easy.

I also see private sponsorships of blogs a thing of the future too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; I see the craze/fad that was AdSense for the last 18 months beginning to fade, with a swag of others taking their place. AdSense can, and should, be just one part of your overall revenue strategy.</p>
<p>Text Link Ads is one that has crept up on me. I&#8217;ve just started to try it out this month and I&#8217;m surprised by how quickly it has built up some revenue.</p>
<p>Maybe we&#8217;re going full circle with all of this &#8211; back to affiliate marketing and Cost Per Action (CPA).</p>
<p>It does make sense to me. An AdSense click is no guarantee for a action that the AdWords buyer desires. Whereas a CPA makes the publisher work that extra harder and because of that an advertiser would be willing to pay much more for leads and clicks that lead to some action.</p>
<p>But I think the extra work may put many off and we might see less blogs surviving or bothering to start up &#8211; AdSense just made everything too easy.</p>
<p>I also see private sponsorships of blogs a thing of the future too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 04:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am making less than 50% of what I use to make with AdSense.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am making less than 50% of what I use to make with AdSense.</p>
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