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		<title>By: Darren McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/10/02/diggs-for-sale-in-organized-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-126289</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully this kills Digg, once and for all.  LOL</description>
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		<title>By: Social networks and the profit motive &#171; Karma - Identity, Trust and Reputation on the Web</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/10/02/diggs-for-sale-in-organized-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-126208</link>
		<dc:creator>Social networks and the profit motive &#171; Karma - Identity, Trust and Reputation on the Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 05:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Blog Herald had an interesting review called Diggs for sale in organized fashion User/Submitter is a new service that connects publishers with diggers. Have a story? Then hand over the cash and User/Submittersâ€™ dig users will digg it for you â€“ and you might even end up on the frontpage of Digg. Thatâ€™s serious stuff, The Blog Herald knows that. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Blog Herald had an interesting review called Diggs for sale in organized fashion User/Submitter is a new service that connects publishers with diggers. Have a story? Then hand over the cash and User/Submittersâ€™ dig users will digg it for you â€“ and you might even end up on the frontpage of Digg. Thatâ€™s serious stuff, The Blog Herald knows that. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 06:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, well, well.

I step out of the blogoshere so I (the royal &quot;I&quot; of course) can have a baby and Boom!  This drops out the sky.

Institutionalized gaming of Digg?  A total non surprise.
Here&#039;s where usersubmitter might be gaming its users though -- there&#039;s a certain way for stories to get dugg to the frontpage, because that&#039;s where the cash money is.

And it isn&#039;t for any ol&#039; joe shmoes to Digg it up.  The new algo change because of the circle digg effect may have changed things, but getting ANY ol &#039; person to digg your story is going to end up having a minimal spike in your traffic ... and the person paying getting the short end of the stick.

Anik -- thanks for the link.  I&#039;ve also posted on Digg shenanigans.
If anyone wants a history of it, they can go here:
http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/08/25/a-brief-history-of-digg-controversy/

More to come on this issue folks ... keep your eyes open for it.
Cheers
t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, well, well.</p>
<p>I step out of the blogoshere so I (the royal &#8220;I&#8221; of course) can have a baby and Boom!  This drops out the sky.</p>
<p>Institutionalized gaming of Digg?  A total non surprise.<br />
Here&#8217;s where usersubmitter might be gaming its users though &#8212; there&#8217;s a certain way for stories to get dugg to the frontpage, because that&#8217;s where the cash money is.</p>
<p>And it isn&#8217;t for any ol&#8217; joe shmoes to Digg it up.  The new algo change because of the circle digg effect may have changed things, but getting ANY ol &#8216; person to digg your story is going to end up having a minimal spike in your traffic &#8230; and the person paying getting the short end of the stick.</p>
<p>Anik &#8212; thanks for the link.  I&#8217;ve also posted on Digg shenanigans.<br />
If anyone wants a history of it, they can go here:<br />
<a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/08/25/a-brief-history-of-digg-controversy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/08/25/a-brief-history-of-digg-controversy/</a></p>
<p>More to come on this issue folks &#8230; keep your eyes open for it.<br />
Cheers<br />
t</p>
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		<title>By: Ankit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ankit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 04:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One very interesting thing mentioned in this Digg fraud site ... (User/Submitter)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Those wanting to bury all stories coming from U/S, note that 80% of the stories are randomly selected from Digg. Some sets are entirely random.
More later.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

These guys are determined to game Digg, and have given a good analysis to all loopholes they might find at. What the world is coming to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One very interesting thing mentioned in this Digg fraud site &#8230; (User/Submitter)</p>
<blockquote><p>Those wanting to bury all stories coming from U/S, note that 80% of the stories are randomly selected from Digg. Some sets are entirely random.<br />
More later.</p></blockquote>
<p>These guys are determined to game Digg, and have given a good analysis to all loopholes they might find at. What the world is coming to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ankit</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/10/02/diggs-for-sale-in-organized-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-125937</link>
		<dc:creator>Ankit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 03:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of gaming is going for a while in Digg. I won`t be surprised to see Kevin Rose putting more Censorship on Digg submitted stories, but this will again be met by uproar by Diggers. 

I have done similar stories on same issue in past &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.instamedia.org/entry/step-aside-seos-and-link-builders-link-baiters-and-top-diggers-are-coming/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of gaming is going for a while in Digg. I won`t be surprised to see Kevin Rose putting more Censorship on Digg submitted stories, but this will again be met by uproar by Diggers. </p>
<p>I have done similar stories on same issue in past <strong><a href="http://www.instamedia.org/entry/step-aside-seos-and-link-builders-link-baiters-and-top-diggers-are-coming/" rel="nofollow">over here.</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2006/10/02/diggs-for-sale-in-organized-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-125903</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE MUST ABSOLUTELY KILL THIS NEW PRODUCT, WE CAN&#039;T LET IT DESTROY THE DIGG SPIRIT.

HOW TO DO?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE MUST ABSOLUTELY KILL THIS NEW PRODUCT, WE CAN&#8217;T LET IT DESTROY THE DIGG SPIRIT.</p>
<p>HOW TO DO?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this will be the end of digg as we know it, imo. As it defeats the purpose of it being open to all.

All this is is professional gaming - highest bidder wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this will be the end of digg as we know it, imo. As it defeats the purpose of it being open to all.</p>
<p>All this is is professional gaming &#8211; highest bidder wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Huw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have thought it would be fairly simple for Digg to detect and stop - if the same crowd of people digg stories which no-one else seems to be digging, you can work out that there is something wrong. In fact, they already have algorithms in place against &#039;herds&#039; of diggers taking control over whether a story reaches the front page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have thought it would be fairly simple for Digg to detect and stop &#8211; if the same crowd of people digg stories which no-one else seems to be digging, you can work out that there is something wrong. In fact, they already have algorithms in place against &#8216;herds&#8217; of diggers taking control over whether a story reaches the front page.</p>
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		<title>By: Leroy Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leroy Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it was only a matter of time before this happened.  If it&#039;s for real ( which it seems to be.... I was afraid of this exact model for quite some time ) then Digg as we know it could be done.  I&#039;ve never been a big Digg fan myself, mainly due to the unpredictability of it.  It can be swayed easily by the masses, and when you put a few bucks behind it, then there&#039;s plenty of room for corruption.  Let&#039;s hope this site and idea gets shut down quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it was only a matter of time before this happened.  If it&#8217;s for real ( which it seems to be&#8230;. I was afraid of this exact model for quite some time ) then Digg as we know it could be done.  I&#8217;ve never been a big Digg fan myself, mainly due to the unpredictability of it.  It can be swayed easily by the masses, and when you put a few bucks behind it, then there&#8217;s plenty of room for corruption.  Let&#8217;s hope this site and idea gets shut down quickly.</p>
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