Comments on: 9rules: jealous, petty, snarky or lost?

By: Best of the Net 2006 - Broken Kode Test

Best of the Net 2006 - Broken Kode Test — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:55:47 +0000

[...] PoliticsWhile I know it wasn’t fun for any of the 9rulers out there to see our network’s name dragged into the mud, it made for interesting reading to be included in the internet gossip pages. One [...]

By: Controversial post by Duncan Riley over FriendFeed | Technology Blog by Colbert Low

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:21:18 +0000

[...] hit back at Duncan and this is brewing a big bitchmeme everywhere. This kinda reminds me the time that 9rules guy ( Paul Scrivens ) took a swipe at me and the b5media guys supported me….Hmm….time [...]

By: Broken Kode | Best of the Net 2006

Broken Kode | Best of the Net 2006 — Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:47:46 +0000

[...] Blogging Networks Politics While I know it wasn’t fun for any of the 9rulers out there to see our network’s name dragged into the mud, it made for interesting reading to be included in the internet gossip pages. One thing I will comment on however was the fact that Blogging Networks in general felt as though they were soo much less important this year than in previous years. Yeah I’m including the venture capital funding that b5media received. I might be feeling that way due to the fact that networks and the interaction I was having with the people in the network was less this year than in previous years. [...]

By: 9rules sucks at Kambiz Kamrani’s Blog

9rules sucks at Kambiz Kamrani’s Blog — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 06:13:02 +0000

[...] A recent tiff just exploded as well, where Mike Rundles, publically ripped at a competing blog network, b5media for successfully raising two million dollars funding from venture capitalists. This has caused a lot of outrage from the public, who largely saw this as a jealous low blow. It was very distasteful and very unprofessional for a blog network that seems to want similar venture capital loving. Mike Rundles has recently realized what an ass he made of himself this time and asapologized, but I think its too little too late. [...]

By: Footsteps in the Mirror » The Never Changing Blogosphere

Footsteps in the Mirror » The Never Changing Blogosphere — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 04:34:51 +0000

[...] I know I haven’t been keeping tabs on what’s been happening in here, at least not as I used to but for those that are still in the dark this is the gist of it – 9rules: jealous, petty, snarky or lost? Basically, it’s picking on the top brass of 9rules and what 9rules have come up lately. Truthfully, as much as a number of 9rulers are outraged by such a post, many aren’t aware of it, or rather choose not to express any opinion for or against it. And this comes in part to what I think of such dribble. [...]

By: The Blog Columnist » The Week that Was: Mike, Duncan, The Blog Herald, b5 and 9rules

Fri, 13 Oct 2006 03:39:58 +0000

[...] My weekly column this week over at The Blog Herald caused a minor flare up. I said my piece and let it go from there. It was a good eye-opener, though. Lots of comments and feedback – emails!!! Extreme is all I will say to those emails. ;). To those who may or may not have jumped up my span quotient up by 750% as of this morning – thanks! Much appreciated. [...]

By: Jamsi

Jamsi — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 01:57:44 +0000

Dave, don’t post comments with prblogging.com – it doesn’t work.
Celebritycowboy.com on the otherhand ..

By: multi-facetuous post at Am I Famous Now?

multi-facetuous post at Am I Famous Now? — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:46:01 +0000

[...] If I were sure it were a word, I would say that is a heckuvatitle for an entry. Yesterday there has been an interesting entry over at the Blog Herald. [...]

By: David Krug

David Krug — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:40:54 +0000

Was in a Mexican Prison. Go read the blog Martin.

By: Martin Neumann

Martin Neumann — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:05:36 +0000

Hey Krugster – you’re back! We’re you been – hijinking it in Tijuana. ;)

Jamsi – I never really expected them to respond … typical bullies: face up to them and they’re usually end up being cowards… Oh I shoudn’t have said that, I’ll have the quality police on my back here again saying what a disgrace The Blog Herald has become … blah, blah.

Screw em: the head honchos of 9Rules are a bunch of silly arse pussies – if you listen to their podcast you quickly realise they’re just a bunch of giggling kids laughing at their naughty jokes.

I’m moving on and will stop kicking this dead horse any longer.

Back to normal transmission, Matt :)

By: David Krug

David Krug — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:43:30 +0000

Hmm. If I’m not mistaken 9rules turned down VC Money.

Like Aaron said different folks. strokes. and what not.

By: Jamsi

Jamsi — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:39:56 +0000

Guys .. I ran outta popcorn. Looks like 9rules snuck out the backdoor, quick Matt, tempt them back with free blog herald t-shirts.

By: Jessica Doyle

Jessica Doyle — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:51:26 +0000

200 comments eh? Here is number 93.

*drinking ice tea and puffing on a smokable*

As an artist one rule I was taught is; to break the rules once you master them. If one draws inside the lines too long and doesn’t go outside, one will find they have no more room to draw inside : ( Come out and play already!

I have no idea why i am here at 3:43AM in the morning. I like the number 93 though ;)

By: Matt Craven

Matt Craven — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:54:59 +0000

I’m on my own bandwagon – that seems to be an effective course to take

By: Martin Neumann

Martin Neumann — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:48:32 +0000

Matt – Yep, Laphoraig will do – but I only drink the 15 years+ stuff. ;)

And the day you pre-approve / edit my pieces is the day I’m outta here… ;)

By: Mattbob

Mattbob — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:43:08 +0000

All I said in my first comment was that it seemed hypocritical of them (which I still think) and that it was a fair question (which I still think). I never said they had to tell us their business plan all I said was “I guess weâ€™ll just have to wait.” which is what my suggestions was in my second comment.

How was my first comment one thing and my second another? My first comment wasn’t to attack 9rules and jump on your bandwagon and my second wasn’t to jump on the 9rules bandwagon. In both I was just proving a point.

By: Matt Craven

Matt Craven — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:40:25 +0000

The Blog Herald also is not aligned with either one. Therefore this is an independent piece.

Not to mention that I do not pre-approve or edit Martin’s piece – much to the chagrin of his targets ;-)

Matt

By: Matt Craven

Matt Craven — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:39:10 +0000

Matt – double scotch for me thanks – straight up, no rocks :-)

Laphoraig?

Matt

By: Martin Neumann

Martin Neumann — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:16:49 +0000

MattBob – I don’t get it. Your initial comment was one thing and then this one another. ???

I don’t recall myself attacking 9rules for too long – or are you just generalizing? And if I have I can guarantee it’s for a reason. But enlighten me on the times I’ve attacked them and I’ll give you a reason.

Nothing wrong with being curious, mate – you even said you were curious yourself in your previous comment.

By: Mattbob

Mattbob — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 02:54:48 +0000

“The fact is that 9rules have long attacked b5 and others (but mainly b5) for reasons unknown”

The fact is you’ve long attacked 9rules for reasons unknown too. Like I said, I think this is a fair question but it doesn’t mean 9rules has to answer. How long was it before Google started AdSense? I don’t know my Google history all that well but I’m guessing It took awhile for them to make some real money, now they’re everywhere. I’m not saying 9rules is starting an AdSense it’s just an example.

85 comments so far without any of the 9rules folks saying a word. Wow! They must be doing something right. Sorry to spoil your rally but I just don’t see the point anymore.

My suggestion: Sit back and enjoy the show. If 9rules is making you curious, just remember, curiousity killed the cat.

By: Martin Neumann

Martin Neumann — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 01:50:22 +0000

Duncan – Ladies and gentlemen, the very diplomatic Duncan Riley :-)

And yes, I am totally unconflicted here. I don’t have anything to do with b5media and nothing to do with 9rules. The Blog Herald also is not aligned with either one. Therefore this is an independent piece.

I’m writing a personal opinion column – remember that, a COLUMN.

LonelyBlogger – one persons junk is another one’s treasure and the other way around. You should know that. :)

Hsien, you’re spot on – “We might all be curious as to what 9rules is up to, if they donâ€™t want to say anything, fine. But whatâ€™s the deal with stomping on people who are enjoying their blogs and creating content that clearly others enjoy reading?”

MATTBOB – exactly!

Okay, business plans/model … whatever. The fact is that 9rules have long attacked b5 and others (but mainly b5) for reasons unknown. Why? And remember Work at Home Mums (WAHM) – Rundle thinks very little of you. I just don’t get we’re they’re coming from or what their agenda is. It’s either bitterness, jealousy or … I Just Don’t Know.

Forget business plans. What about a business model? No one is asking for their deep dark secrets – their 200 page business plan or some scribbled rubbish on a napkin at 2am in a nightclub. But there’s got to be more behind these attacks.

With blog networks (or communities) we’re not talking about 1001 potential business models. There aren’t that many models. Are we talking advertising, sponsorships, product/retail, design firm… It’ll just put it all into perspective knowing where they’re coming from as they go around rubbishing everybody.

A commenter said… “Perhaps itâ€™s just a great front for Rundleâ€™s design skills and Scrivs mouth.”

If that’s so, then so be it but why not just say so – it’s not a bad business model.

Matt – double scotch for me thanks – straight up, no rocks :-)

By: colbert low

colbert low — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 01:17:43 +0000

I’m so immune to 9rules flak. I got a lot some months back and I just have no time to listen to some kids telling me what life is all about when I’ve had more porridge than they’ve had rice. That’s an age old Chinese saying and still persists in this age and time…I’m going to take some much needed rest now and carry on with my life.

By: Cary

Cary — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 01:10:57 +0000

Thanks for the clarification Duncan. Hopefully I made it clear that I honestly believe you guys (and ladies) have a very legitimate gripe about these continual and fairly inane attacks.

If you doubt my sincerity, you should see what I left on Rundle’s blog ; )

That is, if he didn’t delete it…

By: Duncan

Duncan — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:50:09 +0000

Cary,
I’d note that b5 responding with a whole “business plan” thing is incorrect. Martin doesn’t work for b5, The Blog Herald isn’t a b5 property. I did mention it in passing on the podcast in reference to some of their recent attacks, but in the context of why in the world do they (9rules) feel it necessary to attack all and sundry (it’s not exclusively b5 either as a point of reference) when there is some question as to why they are spending more time attacking others than looking after their own backyard, which I believe is a valid question. We don’t as a policy attack others (9rules included) in what we do daily, indeed I’d say we’ve got a great relationship with 98% of other people and companies working in this field. I was asked a question in the podcast, and I did try and respond to it, but please be clear b5 isn’t making a huge issue out of this (indeed b5 has no comment :-) ), it was simply me responding to a question asked, and the business model point came up in context with the answer. All in all at the end of the day I couldn’t personally care less either what their business plan is, if they indeed even have one. I’m focused on building my own company and working with some brilliant people, it’s a lesson 9rules should learn :-)

By: Matt Craven

Matt Craven — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:06:20 +0000

If I was you guys, I would be much more worried about the lack/quality of good blog postings on the BlogHerald recently compared to days past. It seems your readers get stuck with junk 9rules postings like this one. Get with it Blog Herald! You are way better than this.

I’m quite happy with the quality and quantity of posts at The Blog Herald over the last two months – and our traffic and other feedback reflects this.

If you don’t like Martin’s columns, I might suggest a stronger stomach :)

matt