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		<title>By: Year of Original Content: Make Money From Copyright Thieves &#124; The Blog Herald</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-980955</link>
		<dc:creator>Year of Original Content: Make Money From Copyright Thieves &#124; The Blog Herald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] services while profiting from the ads generated by the abusers. I&#8217;ve long been a proponent of stopping splogs at the source, but people don&#8217;t seem very responsive to that idea, allowing black hat bloggers to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: No More DoFollow</title>
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		<dc:creator>No More DoFollow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lorelle @ Blog Herald [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Resveratrol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Resveratrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Virtual Hosting Blog &#187; No More Comment Spam! 46+ Free Tools and Resources to Stop Blog Spammers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtual Hosting Blog &#187; No More Comment Spam! 46+ Free Tools and Resources to Stop Blog Spammers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What Will Stop Comment Spam?: This informative article considers the effects of popular tools and resources bloggers and Web hosters turn to in order to stop blog spam. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zo&#8217;C &#187; Dofollow Vs. Nofollow comments - fighting spam and rewarding commenters</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-208631</link>
		<dc:creator>Zo&#8217;C &#187; Dofollow Vs. Nofollow comments - fighting spam and rewarding commenters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lorelle VanFossen, among many others, think that nofollow will not work. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stop Human Comment Spammers : The Blog Herald</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-188971</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop Human Comment Spammers : The Blog Herald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seeing the threat for a long time, I&#8217;ve challenged bloggers to brainstorm ways to stop comment spam at the root, non on our blogs. Unless we stop comment spamming from being the lucrative business it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] seeing the threat for a long time, I&#8217;ve challenged bloggers to brainstorm ways to stop comment spam at the root, non on our blogs. Unless we stop comment spamming from being the lucrative business it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Can We Work Together To Stop Comment Spam? &#171; Lorelle on WordPress</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-181451</link>
		<dc:creator>Can We Work Together To Stop Comment Spam? &#171; Lorelle on WordPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve put out a call repeatedly to bloggers to use the power of their blogging voices to put an end to the rewards of being a comment spammer. We need to put comment spammers out of business. Anyone listening? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve put out a call repeatedly to bloggers to use the power of their blogging voices to put an end to the rewards of being a comment spammer. We need to put comment spammers out of business. Anyone listening? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Real Adsense Blog Makes Money &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I have been leaving comments on other blogs, and I have been, in some cases, leaving links to to my site.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real Adsense Blog Makes Money &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I have been leaving comments on other blogs, and I have been, in some cases, leaving links to to my site.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   What Will Stop Comment Spam?   [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The magician&#8217;s Wand SEO Technique : TheBlogSense.com</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-179541</link>
		<dc:creator>The magician&#8217;s Wand SEO Technique : TheBlogSense.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 09:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What Will Stop Comment Spam?There is a growing movement to put the “follow” back into blog comment links instead of the nofollow attribute. The reason behind this move is to encourage readers to comment by rewarding their links with SEO credits. The idea behind the nofollow technique was to take away all the “link juice” comment spammers wanted, thus encouraging [&#8230;] What Will Stop Comment Spam?SaveThere is a growing movement to put the “follow” back into blog comment links instead of the nofollow attribute. The reason behind this move is to encourage readers to comment by rewarding their links with SEO credits. The idea behind the nofollow technique was to take away all the “link juice” comment spammers wanted, thus encouraging [&#8230;]/blogherald <a href="http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blogger Anxiety - Blogging and Comments &#187; Reader Appreciaton Project</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-177186</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogger Anxiety - Blogging and Comments &#187; Reader Appreciaton Project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/#comment-177186</guid>
		<description>[...] I hate e-mail spam. But at least nobody sees the e-mail spam except me. With comment spam, every one of my readers has the potential to see the spam I get. Fortunately, bloggers have a powerful ally with Akismet. The Blog Herald has an interesting article on how to stop comment spam. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I hate e-mail spam. But at least nobody sees the e-mail spam except me. With comment spam, every one of my readers has the potential to see the spam I get. Fortunately, bloggers have a powerful ally with Akismet. The Blog Herald has an interesting article on how to stop comment spam. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Akismet: All Our Comment Spam Fighting Eggs in One Basket &#171; Lorelle on WordPress</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-176612</link>
		<dc:creator>Akismet: All Our Comment Spam Fighting Eggs in One Basket &#171; Lorelle on WordPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Honestly, I think it&#8217;s time to stop comment spam at the root and start retraining those who think comment spamming is a good idea. Why should bloggers be punished with comment spam we don&#8217;t want? Let&#8217;s punish the comment spammers instead. You with me? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Honestly, I think it&#8217;s time to stop comment spam at the root and start retraining those who think comment spamming is a good idea. Why should bloggers be punished with comment spam we don&#8217;t want? Let&#8217;s punish the comment spammers instead. You with me? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Comment Spam - Will OpenID be a ray of our hope? &#187; Florchakh Dot Com</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-174485</link>
		<dc:creator>Comment Spam - Will OpenID be a ray of our hope? &#187; Florchakh Dot Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lorelle VanFossen has posted another comprehensive post, this time about comment spam. I&#8217;m really impressed of her long posts, but this time I see a statement that I don&#8217;t agree with. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lorelle VanFossen has posted another comprehensive post, this time about comment spam. I&#8217;m really impressed of her long posts, but this time I see a statement that I don&#8217;t agree with. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Doyle</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-174428</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorelle that sounds good! :) I am about due for an explosion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorelle that sounds good! :) I am about due for an explosion.</p>
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		<title>By: Should Do You Announce Upgrades On Your Blog? at The Blog Herald</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-174129</link>
		<dc:creator>Should Do You Announce Upgrades On Your Blog? at The Blog Herald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While it has been proven that the nofollow attribute in links doesn&#8217;t work to stop comment spammers, I believe that Google&#8217;s web crawler still recognizes it, though other search engines don&#8217;t. That trackback link in WordPress blogs, be it the official WordPress site blogs or all WordPress blogs, carries little credit back to you unless they have turned off the nofollow. WordPress hasn&#8217;t. Yet. And even if they do, don&#8217;t expect much credit from their site in a trackback. Google considers a lot more than incoming and outgoing links. Have you taken that into account? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While it has been proven that the nofollow attribute in links doesn&#8217;t work to stop comment spammers, I believe that Google&#8217;s web crawler still recognizes it, though other search engines don&#8217;t. That trackback link in WordPress blogs, be it the official WordPress site blogs or all WordPress blogs, carries little credit back to you unless they have turned off the nofollow. WordPress hasn&#8217;t. Yet. And even if they do, don&#8217;t expect much credit from their site in a trackback. Google considers a lot more than incoming and outgoing links. Have you taken that into account? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: franky</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-173387</link>
		<dc:creator>franky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t stop it. Period.
Nofollow is needed. Nofollow was not meant to stop spam. Nofollow was meant to take the link weight away and prevent spam to show up in SERPs.

&lt;em&gt;Dearest Bot, do not follow this link because I do not trust the content offered at that link.&lt;/em&gt;

Lets &lt;em&gt;ridiculize&lt;/em&gt; nofollow a little. I do nofollow links to Google SERPs. I do nofollow links to Wikipedia. Why? Because the content I see and trust today when I link to those pages might have become totally different in the next weeks, months.

I defend &lt;em&gt;dofollow&lt;/em&gt; for comments. Why? Because I monitor my comments. So do you. So does 5% of the other bloggers.
All automated WP installs and scraping blogs, don&#039;t. Millions of blogs are abandoned.
There is a need for nofollow as standard (eventho I&#039;d love to see the possibility to opt for &lt;em&gt;no nofollow&lt;/em&gt; in my WP settings, I see no need for a plugin).
I like SERPs clean as they are today. They have improved significantly over the last 15 months. Nofollow is one of the reasons. 
Another one the duplicate content penalization.

But fact is, no matter what new rules land, criminals will always be ahead of the law. Imagine SEs and services such as Akismet were to build an internetwide blacklist service/database. Would it solve the problem?
No. Spammers would find an automated process to install new proxy services on their servers aso.

It&#039;s a never ending battle. The more domains get registered, the more domain possibilities will be created.
The more people go online, the more IPs there will be and the more IPs can be abused by spammers.
And will be.

All we can do is monitor actively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t stop it. Period.<br />
Nofollow is needed. Nofollow was not meant to stop spam. Nofollow was meant to take the link weight away and prevent spam to show up in SERPs.</p>
<p><em>Dearest Bot, do not follow this link because I do not trust the content offered at that link.</em></p>
<p>Lets <em>ridiculize</em> nofollow a little. I do nofollow links to Google SERPs. I do nofollow links to Wikipedia. Why? Because the content I see and trust today when I link to those pages might have become totally different in the next weeks, months.</p>
<p>I defend <em>dofollow</em> for comments. Why? Because I monitor my comments. So do you. So does 5% of the other bloggers.<br />
All automated WP installs and scraping blogs, don&#8217;t. Millions of blogs are abandoned.<br />
There is a need for nofollow as standard (eventho I&#8217;d love to see the possibility to opt for <em>no nofollow</em> in my WP settings, I see no need for a plugin).<br />
I like SERPs clean as they are today. They have improved significantly over the last 15 months. Nofollow is one of the reasons.<br />
Another one the duplicate content penalization.</p>
<p>But fact is, no matter what new rules land, criminals will always be ahead of the law. Imagine SEs and services such as Akismet were to build an internetwide blacklist service/database. Would it solve the problem?<br />
No. Spammers would find an automated process to install new proxy services on their servers aso.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a never ending battle. The more domains get registered, the more domain possibilities will be created.<br />
The more people go online, the more IPs there will be and the more IPs can be abused by spammers.<br />
And will be.</p>
<p>All we can do is monitor actively.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-172465</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 07:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ajay: Shutting down posts is not available on WordPress.com blogs, and it doesn&#039;t work. As I mentioned in my comments, comment spam hits new posts equally. In fact, posts on Blog Herald here often get hit with comment spam within an hour or less after posting. They do a great job stopping it with heavy duty comment spam fighters like Akismet and Bad Behavior.

Jessica: Wonderful idea! 

What we can do is publicize the need to DO something about this. Let&#039;s work together with artists and writers to spread the word that this needs to stop. Make it grass roots or bigger. Somehow, somewhere, someone knows how to trace the money sources and can help us put an end to this, if we spread the word that we want comment spam (and email spam) stopped. It can be done.

Let&#039;s see how big a difference our blogs can make when we all work together for a single cause, and I think this one is a good one that impacts everyone, no matter what they blog about, nor what language they blog in. It&#039;s the universal evil on the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ajay: Shutting down posts is not available on WordPress.com blogs, and it doesn&#8217;t work. As I mentioned in my comments, comment spam hits new posts equally. In fact, posts on Blog Herald here often get hit with comment spam within an hour or less after posting. They do a great job stopping it with heavy duty comment spam fighters like Akismet and Bad Behavior.</p>
<p>Jessica: Wonderful idea! </p>
<p>What we can do is publicize the need to DO something about this. Let&#8217;s work together with artists and writers to spread the word that this needs to stop. Make it grass roots or bigger. Somehow, somewhere, someone knows how to trace the money sources and can help us put an end to this, if we spread the word that we want comment spam (and email spam) stopped. It can be done.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see how big a difference our blogs can make when we all work together for a single cause, and I think this one is a good one that impacts everyone, no matter what they blog about, nor what language they blog in. It&#8217;s the universal evil on the web.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Doyle</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-172348</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the past I have stolen comment spam and re-furbished it into a &quot;Spammer Wanted Dead or Alive&quot; poster. Perhaps it is time to create one again. 

This is one way artists can fight back. We can take and re-mix the spam into art.

The original post I wrote can be found on the Blog Herald Lorelle.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogherald.com/2006/12/05/spamart-001-wanted-dead-or-alive/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spamart 001 - Wanted Dead or Alive&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the past I have stolen comment spam and re-furbished it into a &#8220;Spammer Wanted Dead or Alive&#8221; poster. Perhaps it is time to create one again. </p>
<p>This is one way artists can fight back. We can take and re-mix the spam into art.</p>
<p>The original post I wrote can be found on the Blog Herald Lorelle.<br />
<a href="http://www.blogherald.com/2006/12/05/spamart-001-wanted-dead-or-alive/" rel="nofollow">Spamart 001 &#8211; Wanted Dead or Alive</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ajay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lorelle, you do raise a valid point on trying something &lt;em&gt;outside&lt;/em&gt; our blogs, but unfortunately, it isn&#039;t as easy.

I like shutting down comments on old posts. Infact, that is something I do on my self-hosted blogs. But, WordPress.com hasn&#039;t provided a way to do that, or am I missing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lorelle, you do raise a valid point on trying something <em>outside</em> our blogs, but unfortunately, it isn&#8217;t as easy.</p>
<p>I like shutting down comments on old posts. Infact, that is something I do on my self-hosted blogs. But, WordPress.com hasn&#8217;t provided a way to do that, or am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Webomatica</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-172234</link>
		<dc:creator>Webomatica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that as long as its cost effective for spammers to spam they&#039;ll keep doing it. In addition to spammy comments on my blog I also deal with spammy emails. Somebody must be clicking on these spam links or emails or why would they bother? Otherwise, I&#039;m thinking it&#039;s a numbers game - spammers blast so many blogs and a small handful of comments get through, that&#039;s enough.

Is there any way to have a catchpa for spammers that repeatedly spam? Can something be done with the information on spam that Akismet has collected (IP addresses, public shaming)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that as long as its cost effective for spammers to spam they&#8217;ll keep doing it. In addition to spammy comments on my blog I also deal with spammy emails. Somebody must be clicking on these spam links or emails or why would they bother? Otherwise, I&#8217;m thinking it&#8217;s a numbers game &#8211; spammers blast so many blogs and a small handful of comments get through, that&#8217;s enough.</p>
<p>Is there any way to have a catchpa for spammers that repeatedly spam? Can something be done with the information on spam that Akismet has collected (IP addresses, public shaming)?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electro-shock therapy for spammers? No. That probably isn&#039;t a practical solution.

You&#039;re are right Lorelle. Until the money flow to the spammers is somehow stopped this problem will only get worse for us. I haven&#039;t paid much attention to how they make their money. Is there something that can be done in the marketplace to cut off their revenue streams?

Is it even in an advertisers best interest to stop doing business with a spammer if they are producing eyes on their ads through their underhanded practices? It &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be. But is it?

How about an advertising company like Google? Where is their incentive (I mean aside from the fact that it is Evil) not to do business with folks who are getting eyes on their ads via spam?

I&#039;m not sure how it can be done. But only by disrupting their cash flow will we deter them from spamming. Until then it is obviously working and will keep getting worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electro-shock therapy for spammers? No. That probably isn&#8217;t a practical solution.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re are right Lorelle. Until the money flow to the spammers is somehow stopped this problem will only get worse for us. I haven&#8217;t paid much attention to how they make their money. Is there something that can be done in the marketplace to cut off their revenue streams?</p>
<p>Is it even in an advertisers best interest to stop doing business with a spammer if they are producing eyes on their ads through their underhanded practices? It <i>should</i> be. But is it?</p>
<p>How about an advertising company like Google? Where is their incentive (I mean aside from the fact that it is Evil) not to do business with folks who are getting eyes on their ads via spam?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how it can be done. But only by disrupting their cash flow will we deter them from spamming. Until then it is obviously working and will keep getting worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/05/what-will-stop-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-172164</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorelle VanFossen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a reminder, the size of the blog, the age of the comments, the level of the traffic, and the popularity of the blog has no influence over comment spam. I&#039;ve found comment spam on blog posts 30 minutes old.

Comment spam bots flow like search engines following incoming links from one blog to another. The only characterization I can find on all of my blogs that &quot;attracts&quot; comment spam is the number of incoming links to the blog. When one new blog went four months comment spam free, within 40 minutes of making my first link to it, comment spam appeared. Whenever a new group of incoming links come to any of my blogs, comment spam levels grows, hitting posts of all dates and types.

Akismet and a combination of Bad Behavior and Spam Karma do the job on all of my blogs, but we need to do more to stop comment spam than just what we do with tools on our blogs.

&lt;strong&gt;What can we do &lt;em&gt;outside&lt;/em&gt; of our blogs to stop comment spam?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a reminder, the size of the blog, the age of the comments, the level of the traffic, and the popularity of the blog has no influence over comment spam. I&#8217;ve found comment spam on blog posts 30 minutes old.</p>
<p>Comment spam bots flow like search engines following incoming links from one blog to another. The only characterization I can find on all of my blogs that &#8220;attracts&#8221; comment spam is the number of incoming links to the blog. When one new blog went four months comment spam free, within 40 minutes of making my first link to it, comment spam appeared. Whenever a new group of incoming links come to any of my blogs, comment spam levels grows, hitting posts of all dates and types.</p>
<p>Akismet and a combination of Bad Behavior and Spam Karma do the job on all of my blogs, but we need to do more to stop comment spam than just what we do with tools on our blogs.</p>
<p><strong>What can we do <em>outside</em> of our blogs to stop comment spam?</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Everton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Everton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a fan of Akismet as yes it keeps the spam off your blog, but you still have to plow through the spam to find false positives.  

There are ways to stop spammers at their source, which reduces the amount of spam that you have to check to find false positives.  I successfully managed to tame my significant spam problem from 250 spams a minute to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.connectedinternet.co.uk/2007/02/28/guide-to-reducing-wordpress-trackback-spam-and-comment-spam/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;around 40 a day&lt;/a&gt;

I agree that adding do follow probably won&#039;t lead to more comments, but I&#039;m going to do this ASAP as I didn&#039;t realise that WP defaulted to nofollow, which I don&#039;t think is fair, even if my readers don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of Akismet as yes it keeps the spam off your blog, but you still have to plow through the spam to find false positives.  </p>
<p>There are ways to stop spammers at their source, which reduces the amount of spam that you have to check to find false positives.  I successfully managed to tame my significant spam problem from 250 spams a minute to <a href="http://www.connectedinternet.co.uk/2007/02/28/guide-to-reducing-wordpress-trackback-spam-and-comment-spam/" rel="nofollow">around 40 a day</a></p>
<p>I agree that adding do follow probably won&#8217;t lead to more comments, but I&#8217;m going to do this ASAP as I didn&#8217;t realise that WP defaulted to nofollow, which I don&#8217;t think is fair, even if my readers don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Akismet has been a lifesaver so far, haven&#039;t had to resort to CAPTCHA yet, hopefully it doesn&#039;t come to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akismet has been a lifesaver so far, haven&#8217;t had to resort to CAPTCHA yet, hopefully it doesn&#8217;t come to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed on one of my blogs that the comment spammers using automated commenting are using only a few of my old posts as the referrer. So I turned comments and trackbacks off on those posts, and then add those ip addresses to the firewall (iptables). That has helped immensely. I may end up blocking most of Asia, since many many IP addresses are in China and Korea.

I use Akismet and Comment Timeout. Bad Behavior helped a bit, but I got several reports from real people being blocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed on one of my blogs that the comment spammers using automated commenting are using only a few of my old posts as the referrer. So I turned comments and trackbacks off on those posts, and then add those ip addresses to the firewall (iptables). That has helped immensely. I may end up blocking most of Asia, since many many IP addresses are in China and Korea.</p>
<p>I use Akismet and Comment Timeout. Bad Behavior helped a bit, but I got several reports from real people being blocked.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use a captcha to help with comment spam and things have gotten better. When the human spammers drop by I make sure I delete their &quot;comments&quot;. 

One trend I try to discourage is bloggers using &#039;signatures&quot;. For example: Leon - Big Blog Directory [link]. I see this in forums and it is okay there but it isn&#039;t needed in comments and is too similar to comment spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use a captcha to help with comment spam and things have gotten better. When the human spammers drop by I make sure I delete their &#8220;comments&#8221;. </p>
<p>One trend I try to discourage is bloggers using &#8216;signatures&#8221;. For example: Leon &#8211; Big Blog Directory [link]. I see this in forums and it is okay there but it isn&#8217;t needed in comments and is too similar to comment spam.</p>
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