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		<title>By: Blogging Class War: Legislative Action, or That&#8217;s Entertainment &#187; Webomatica - tech, movies, music blog</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/19/is-there-an-a-list-the-debate-goes-on/comment-page-1/#comment-175515</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogging Class War: Legislative Action, or That&#8217;s Entertainment &#187; Webomatica - tech, movies, music blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If a true blog class war breaks out, what should we do? A thread at Deep Jive Interests keeps getting longer (65 comments!). I suggest government intervention. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/19/is-there-an-a-list-the-debate-goes-on/comment-page-1/#comment-175491</link>
		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear that Rana.  

And by &quot;before&quot;, do you mean before Splashpress took reins?  Or before Blogmedia took over?


Cheers
tony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear that Rana.  </p>
<p>And by &#8220;before&#8221;, do you mean before Splashpress took reins?  Or before Blogmedia took over?</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
tony.</p>
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		<title>By: rana</title>
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		<dc:creator>rana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading The Blog Herald for a long time, and frankly it was more interesting before you took over. I still check the site out of habit, not because I enjoy reading you. Neither the writing nor the content is particularly interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading The Blog Herald for a long time, and frankly it was more interesting before you took over. I still check the site out of habit, not because I enjoy reading you. Neither the writing nor the content is particularly interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Starked SF, Unforgiving News from the Bay &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linker Barn: Tuesday, March 20</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starked SF, Unforgiving News from the Bay &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linker Barn: Tuesday, March 20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Obama v. Hillary mashup video just won&#8217;t go away.  Just imagine what awaits in the election year ahead . . . .             [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/19/is-there-an-a-list-the-debate-goes-on/comment-page-1/#comment-175316</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

Jason *doesn&#039;t* think that an A-list exists *because* he thinks that anyone can *become* the A-list through &#039;hard work&#039; and &#039;good blogging&#039;.

Second of all, I doubt Jason Calacanis ever struggled with meager adsense earnings; he is the chap, after all who sold Weblogs for millions of dollars to AOL.

Thirdly, I agree -- its up to bloggers whether or not they want to do PPP, and that they need to take into account the consequences thereafter.  And that&#039;s always been my point.  A few months ago, Mr. Calacanis and Jeff Jarvis got into a huge rant about how evil PPP is -- the subtext being that *no* blogger in their right mind should do it.

Well the whole point of my original post that got picked on is that &quot;blue-collar&quot; bloggers might not have the convenience of being able to debate such things, because they&#039;re looking to make money to make ends meet.

PPP is a phenomena that is more nuanced than what many people make it out to be.  Yes, there is disclosure *finally*. But it came on the heels of an FTC official opinion about Word of Mout Marketing.  And Posties are not required to mark individual posts as being sponsored -- so you never know which posts are sponsored material or not.

Cheers
t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>Jason *doesn&#8217;t* think that an A-list exists *because* he thinks that anyone can *become* the A-list through &#8216;hard work&#8217; and &#8216;good blogging&#8217;.</p>
<p>Second of all, I doubt Jason Calacanis ever struggled with meager adsense earnings; he is the chap, after all who sold Weblogs for millions of dollars to AOL.</p>
<p>Thirdly, I agree &#8212; its up to bloggers whether or not they want to do PPP, and that they need to take into account the consequences thereafter.  And that&#8217;s always been my point.  A few months ago, Mr. Calacanis and Jeff Jarvis got into a huge rant about how evil PPP is &#8212; the subtext being that *no* blogger in their right mind should do it.</p>
<p>Well the whole point of my original post that got picked on is that &#8220;blue-collar&#8221; bloggers might not have the convenience of being able to debate such things, because they&#8217;re looking to make money to make ends meet.</p>
<p>PPP is a phenomena that is more nuanced than what many people make it out to be.  Yes, there is disclosure *finally*. But it came on the heels of an FTC official opinion about Word of Mout Marketing.  And Posties are not required to mark individual posts as being sponsored &#8212; so you never know which posts are sponsored material or not.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
t</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Go, Wise Bread</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Go, Wise Bread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to land on the side of Calacanis here.  No one is questioning the fact that there are bloggers (call them A-list if you want) that have sway over their HUGE audiences versus the &quot;regular&quot; guys who have smaller audiences.  But I believe Jason&#039;s point is that the A-listers weren&#039;t GIVEN anything, and that they struggled with the same $10 monthly Adsense earnings for years.

The interesting question isn&#039;t about the &lt;em&gt;existence&lt;/em&gt; of stratification in the blogosphere -- I don&#039;t think anyone is saying Boing-Boing is in the same class as, say, the personal blog I started with 3 readers (me, my mom and my dog).  Obviously.

The interesting question is whether or not being a &quot;blue collar&quot; blogger is enough license to write PayPerPost articles without a clear disclaimer?

I&#039;m thinking: &lt;strong&gt;Yes, but do so at your own peril.&lt;/strong&gt;

If small time bloggers want to eck out a higher rate for their blogging hobby by doing PPP, so be it.  It&#039;s &lt;em&gt;their&lt;/em&gt; blog, and I strongly believe &lt;em&gt;they&lt;/em&gt; have a right to put whatever they want on &lt;em&gt;their&lt;/em&gt; blog.  Personal freedom is a top reason the blogosphere rocks!

Annoying flash animation will scare away potential readers.  And (I believe) not-so-transparent PPPs undermines a blogger&#039;s credibility to the point that they will lose readers.  

Is $50 this month worth the loss of future readers?  Hey, it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; blog... you make the decision, you live with the consequences.

Cheers,
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to land on the side of Calacanis here.  No one is questioning the fact that there are bloggers (call them A-list if you want) that have sway over their HUGE audiences versus the &#8220;regular&#8221; guys who have smaller audiences.  But I believe Jason&#8217;s point is that the A-listers weren&#8217;t GIVEN anything, and that they struggled with the same $10 monthly Adsense earnings for years.</p>
<p>The interesting question isn&#8217;t about the <em>existence</em> of stratification in the blogosphere &#8212; I don&#8217;t think anyone is saying Boing-Boing is in the same class as, say, the personal blog I started with 3 readers (me, my mom and my dog).  Obviously.</p>
<p>The interesting question is whether or not being a &#8220;blue collar&#8221; blogger is enough license to write PayPerPost articles without a clear disclaimer?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking: <strong>Yes, but do so at your own peril.</strong></p>
<p>If small time bloggers want to eck out a higher rate for their blogging hobby by doing PPP, so be it.  It&#8217;s <em>their</em> blog, and I strongly believe <em>they</em> have a right to put whatever they want on <em>their</em> blog.  Personal freedom is a top reason the blogosphere rocks!</p>
<p>Annoying flash animation will scare away potential readers.  And (I believe) not-so-transparent PPPs undermines a blogger&#8217;s credibility to the point that they will lose readers.  </p>
<p>Is $50 this month worth the loss of future readers?  Hey, it&#8217;s <em>your</em> blog&#8230; you make the decision, you live with the consequences.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More to the point -- is it hot for good reason? and will it stay hot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More to the point &#8212; is it hot for good reason? and will it stay hot?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Hodson</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/03/19/is-there-an-a-list-the-debate-goes-on/comment-page-1/#comment-175274</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Hodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Tony .. enough of the A-List massaging :)

There are far more important topics to talk about - like how hot Twitter is or isn&#039;t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Tony .. enough of the A-List massaging :)</p>
<p>There are far more important topics to talk about &#8211; like how hot Twitter is or isn&#8217;t</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if nothing else, it was an interesting debate for a cold March weekend. ;)

I don&#039;t begrudge the &quot;a-list&quot; from being the &quot;a-list&quot; -- if those bloggers weren&#039;t up there, someone else would be.  Again, these bloggers aren&#039;t just &quot;good&quot;, or &quot;successful&quot;, these guys, in the techno-sphere, are guys who actually wield real influence.  

Contrary to some blogger&#039;s opinions, its not *just* about being in san francisco being at the right parties and so on -- these guys actually *make* news.  They are more connected, they are more influential, and they are just part of what makes the &quot;web2.0&quot; run.

Jason Calacanis decides to sell Weblogs? Remake Netscape into a social bookmarking / news site? That&#039;s actually news.
Dave Winer decides to start talking about an open-source ipod Killer?  Also news.
Jeff Jarvis going to yet another huge media conference?  Also news.
Steve Rubel not talking about the Wal-mart fiasco?  Big news.
Robert Scoble criticizing major bloggers for not giving Podtech links (when Podtech is paid by their sponsors to create videos -- which lead to links)?  News as well.

Because they are who they are and what they are, its a ludicrous argument that anyone is &quot;envious&quot; of them, or that people who criticize them have some kind of envy who need instruction about creating better blogs.

I found that the point I was trying to make was that the a-list does exists, and they are more than just &quot;successful bloggers&#039;; moreover, to deny their existence was just silly.

Phew ... now, can we drop the conversation for a few months at least? :)

Cheers
t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if nothing else, it was an interesting debate for a cold March weekend. ;)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t begrudge the &#8220;a-list&#8221; from being the &#8220;a-list&#8221; &#8212; if those bloggers weren&#8217;t up there, someone else would be.  Again, these bloggers aren&#8217;t just &#8220;good&#8221;, or &#8220;successful&#8221;, these guys, in the techno-sphere, are guys who actually wield real influence.  </p>
<p>Contrary to some blogger&#8217;s opinions, its not *just* about being in san francisco being at the right parties and so on &#8212; these guys actually *make* news.  They are more connected, they are more influential, and they are just part of what makes the &#8220;web2.0&#8243; run.</p>
<p>Jason Calacanis decides to sell Weblogs? Remake Netscape into a social bookmarking / news site? That&#8217;s actually news.<br />
Dave Winer decides to start talking about an open-source ipod Killer?  Also news.<br />
Jeff Jarvis going to yet another huge media conference?  Also news.<br />
Steve Rubel not talking about the Wal-mart fiasco?  Big news.<br />
Robert Scoble criticizing major bloggers for not giving Podtech links (when Podtech is paid by their sponsors to create videos &#8212; which lead to links)?  News as well.</p>
<p>Because they are who they are and what they are, its a ludicrous argument that anyone is &#8220;envious&#8221; of them, or that people who criticize them have some kind of envy who need instruction about creating better blogs.</p>
<p>I found that the point I was trying to make was that the a-list does exists, and they are more than just &#8220;successful bloggers&#8217;; moreover, to deny their existence was just silly.</p>
<p>Phew &#8230; now, can we drop the conversation for a few months at least? :)</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
t</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the debate in the comments on Tony&#039;s post at DJI pretty enlightening. Personally, I&#039;m off to start a “Lawn Mower Blog” thanks to Scoble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the debate in the comments on Tony&#8217;s post at DJI pretty enlightening. Personally, I&#8217;m off to start a “Lawn Mower Blog” thanks to Scoble.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone wants to see how they stack up again an A-lister:
http://www.kineda.com/blog-fight/</description>
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<a href="http://www.kineda.com/blog-fight/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kineda.com/blog-fight/</a></p>
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		<title>By: So I Signed Up For ReviewMe. Have I Just Sold My Soul? &#187; The J Spot</title>
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		<dc:creator>So I Signed Up For ReviewMe. Have I Just Sold My Soul? &#187; The J Spot</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] This has brought up a lot of arguments, notable among which is the recent undying does the A-List exist? question, which I posted about at the Blog Herald. [...]</description>
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