Comments on: If You See This, The Content Is Stolen http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/ The leading source of news covering social media and the blogosphere. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:52:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Is Twitter The Next SEO Haven? : The Blog Herald http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-185616 Is Twitter The Next SEO Haven? : The Blog Herald Mon, 21 May 2007 11:16:29 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-185616 [...] engines have learned to flag and de-index spammy sites. But sploggers still go on, with many using scripts that automate scraping of content. Sadly, the prevalence of splogs has also prompted the search engines to consider lessening the [...] [...] engines have learned to flag and de-index spammy sites. But sploggers still go on, with many using scripts that automate scraping of content. Sadly, the prevalence of splogs has also prompted the search engines to consider lessening the [...]

]]> By: Andy Beard http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-184200 Andy Beard Tue, 08 May 2007 20:43:09 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-184200 One of the most powerful splog tools currently available? Google Reader When I pointed out that there should be a "noshare" option in RSS feeds that would work with Google Reader, so content authors had a choice, my arguments were universally dismissed by the blogosphere. All Elliot Back's software does is create a very poor Technorati on a single topic. If you have some ranking ability, you are almost always going to outrank that content on Google, and the links actually help a little. Being splogged partially counteracts all the various blogroll schemes to boost Technorati authority. I have people who splog my full content - rarely do they have adverts, and I am sure I get most of the traffic - they do it legally because I publish everything under a GPL license. I am happy for them to do it, and benefit from around 20 backlinks for every article they decide to use. I rarely have problems with people using nofollow on the links. One of the most powerful splog tools currently available? Google Reader

When I pointed out that there should be a “noshare” option in RSS feeds that would work with Google Reader, so content authors had a choice, my arguments were universally dismissed by the blogosphere.

All Elliot Back’s software does is create a very poor Technorati on a single topic. If you have some ranking ability, you are almost always going to outrank that content on Google, and the links actually help a little.

Being splogged partially counteracts all the various blogroll schemes to boost Technorati authority.

I have people who splog my full content – rarely do they have adverts, and I am sure I get most of the traffic – they do it legally because I publish everything under a GPL license.
I am happy for them to do it, and benefit from around 20 backlinks for every article they decide to use.

I rarely have problems with people using nofollow on the links.

]]> By: Leigh http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-184184 Leigh Tue, 08 May 2007 13:07:00 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-184184 Sorry, somehow I managed to submit the above without clicking the 'notify me' button. Darn! Sorry, somehow I managed to submit the above without clicking the ‘notify me’ button. Darn!

]]> By: Leigh http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-184183 Leigh Tue, 08 May 2007 13:02:56 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-184183 Guess I'm at least partially a dissenting voice then. RSS was originally designed for syndication to publishers, not for personal feed readers. So I can understand why people use it for its original intended purpose, particularly if the feed contains extracts only, with links back to the original posts. Having said that, if the links in the feed are removed or nullified, or if the feed owner makes it clear that they are providing the feed for feed readers only, then I'd regard that as unethical use. cheers, Leigh Guess I’m at least partially a dissenting voice then. RSS was originally designed for syndication to publishers, not for personal feed readers. So I can understand why people use it for its original intended purpose, particularly if the feed contains extracts only, with links back to the original posts.

Having said that, if the links in the feed are removed or nullified, or if the feed owner makes it clear that they are providing the feed for feed readers only, then I’d regard that as unethical use.

cheers,

Leigh

]]> By: Andy Merrett http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-184168 Andy Merrett Tue, 08 May 2007 08:20:32 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-184168 I take your point HART, and Eliot's code is not the only code that can be used. I use CARP which can be used in much the same way. I take your point HART, and Eliot’s code is not the only code that can be used. I use CARP which can be used in much the same way.

]]> By: HART (1-800-HART) http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-184157 HART (1-800-HART) Mon, 07 May 2007 20:46:48 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-184157 And another thing .. I can't spell too good either, but I confess to that vice. And another thing .. I can’t spell too good either, but I confess to that vice.

]]> By: HART (1-800-HART) http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-184156 HART (1-800-HART) Mon, 07 May 2007 20:45:12 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-184156 Nothing is ever black or white or as it seems - at least with me (as you probably already know) and I think I will have to play the advocate on this one. I would NOT think to blame the software programmer for the misuses of evil people who misuse their work. I think that's unfair to people who write plugins and other scripts (including Elliot Back) and is not giving the right feedback to some upcoming potential programmers, who could be chicken chit scared to create anything unique or new. I myself have tried the autoblogging plugin but chose to use the FeedWordPress plugin instead - to aggregate all my feeds by channel within my own little network of sites ... into one larger blog with a feed that I can distribute. Am I a splogger then? Because sploggers use the same tools that I do? When uou start spreading rumours like that - (old new yaya) but people like me get burned by people like Technorati or anybody who listens to that crap and makes judgements without looking at the facts. However - NO DOUGT .. YES! The irony is a little amusing that the writer of a script that others can steal content was used to steal his very own content. I had a big laugh when I first read that back in 2005 Nothing is ever black or white or as it seems – at least with me (as you probably already know) and I think I will have to play the advocate on this one.

I would NOT think to blame the software programmer for the misuses of evil people who misuse their work. I think that’s unfair to people who write plugins and other scripts (including Elliot Back) and is not giving the right feedback to some upcoming potential programmers, who could be chicken chit scared to create anything unique or new.

I myself have tried the autoblogging plugin but chose to use the FeedWordPress plugin instead – to aggregate all my feeds by channel within my own little network of sites … into one larger blog with a feed that I can distribute.

Am I a splogger then? Because sploggers use the same tools that I do? When uou start spreading rumours like that – (old new yaya) but people like me get burned by people like Technorati or anybody who listens to that crap and makes judgements without looking at the facts.

However – NO DOUGT .. YES! The irony is a little amusing that the writer of a script that others can steal content was used to steal his very own content. I had a big laugh when I first read that back in 2005

]]> By: Savvy Affiliate » Blog Archive » Bug In Bloglines? http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-184141 Savvy Affiliate » Blog Archive » Bug In Bloglines? Mon, 07 May 2007 06:23:40 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-184141 [...] BlogHerald always says that it has 5-10 new posts in my bloglines.  I have seen this postas new for the last 3 days.  Is this some kind of flaw in blog lines?  Is it something that they Blog Herald is doing to make sure their posts always appear at the top of the feeds? [...] [...] BlogHerald always says that it has 5-10 new posts in my bloglines.  I have seen this postas new for the last 3 days.  Is this some kind of flaw in blog lines?  Is it something that they Blog Herald is doing to make sure their posts always appear at the top of the feeds? [...]

]]> By: Liz Strauss http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-184065 Liz Strauss Sat, 05 May 2007 10:06:10 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-184065 Hi Andy, That would be great. We should ask Feedburner to tackle the problem. :) Hi Andy,
That would be great. We should ask Feedburner to tackle the problem. :)

]]> By: Andy Merrett http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-184004 Andy Merrett Fri, 04 May 2007 21:48:52 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-184004 Oh I see, Liz. That makes sense. I thought there was some wizzy way of coding it up - wouldn't that be great! Oh I see, Liz. That makes sense.

I thought there was some wizzy way of coding it up – wouldn’t that be great!

]]> By: franky http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-183950 franky Thu, 03 May 2007 23:46:01 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-183950 Andy, you can obtain that Brendan's <a href="http://www.smackfoo.com/plugins/sig2feed/" rel="nofollow">sig2feed</a> (server seems slow right atm, patience is a good virtue :) ) Andy, you can obtain that Brendan’s sig2feed (server seems slow right atm, patience is a good virtue :) )

]]> By: Liz Strauss http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-183946 Liz Strauss Thu, 03 May 2007 21:45:37 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-183946 Hi Andy, You make a great point about the legacy of having the name Elliott Back on splogg after splogg. It's a harsh penalty for a mistake of whatever kind it is/was. A BIG one, and one it appears that is only now beginning to be understood by the guy who made it. Well, Andy, my memory wasn't exactly right. I just went to look it up. What he did was the reverse . . . <i> “If you are not reading this content in your news aggregator, the site you are looking at is guilty of copyright infringement.” </i> Sorry to have misled you. Liz Hi Andy,
You make a great point about the legacy of having the name Elliott Back on splogg after splogg. It’s a harsh penalty for a mistake of whatever kind it is/was. A BIG one, and one it appears that is only now beginning to be understood by the guy who made it.

Well, Andy, my memory wasn’t exactly right. I just went to look it up. What he did was the reverse . . .

“If you are not reading this content in your news aggregator, the site you are looking at is guilty of copyright infringement.”

Sorry to have misled you.
Liz

]]> By: Andy Merrett http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-183943 Andy Merrett Thu, 03 May 2007 20:17:50 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-183943 Yes, I'm fed up with seeing sites that say: Written by Andy Merrett, software by Eliot Back. Not knowing this, I actually contacted Eliot thinking that he was being ripped off in some way. More fool me. What's sad is that, in his apparent eagerness to release some scraping software (essentially, that's what it is) his name is now emblazoned across every splog out there, often with the author who wrote the article and has been ripped off. What a great legacy. It must be on hundreds of thousands of pages. And it will *never* go away. What I can't work out for now, is how you can get some kind of "if you see this" message on your feed so that only the sploggers pick it up. I can understand how to put it on your feed and not your web site, that's easy, but then it would be displayed on every legitimate feed reader too. Am I missing something? Yes, I’m fed up with seeing sites that say: Written by Andy Merrett, software by Eliot Back.

Not knowing this, I actually contacted Eliot thinking that he was being ripped off in some way. More fool me.

What’s sad is that, in his apparent eagerness to release some scraping software (essentially, that’s what it is) his name is now emblazoned across every splog out there, often with the author who wrote the article and has been ripped off.

What a great legacy. It must be on hundreds of thousands of pages. And it will *never* go away.

What I can’t work out for now, is how you can get some kind of “if you see this” message on your feed so that only the sploggers pick it up. I can understand how to put it on your feed and not your web site, that’s easy, but then it would be displayed on every legitimate feed reader too. Am I missing something?

]]> By: Liz Strauss http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-183927 Liz Strauss Thu, 03 May 2007 14:58:55 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-183927 Hi Franky, I only stated the facts and my experience of them. I think I did that. I appreciate your supportive comment. :) Hi Franky,
I only stated the facts and my experience of them. I think I did that. I appreciate your supportive comment. :)

]]> By: franky http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-183926 franky Thu, 03 May 2007 14:54:50 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-183926 Sweet!!! Sorry, can't hide my joy. I also have had more than one elliotback backlink. Nice call out Liz. Sweet!!!

Sorry, can’t hide my joy. I also have had more than one elliotback backlink. Nice call out Liz.

]]> By: Blog Herald Today: If You See This, The Content Is Stolen - Liz Strauss at Successful Blog - Thinking, writing, business ideas . . . You’re only a stranger once. http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-183915 Blog Herald Today: If You See This, The Content Is Stolen - Liz Strauss at Successful Blog - Thinking, writing, business ideas . . . You’re only a stranger once. Thu, 03 May 2007 11:17:28 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/05/03/if-you-see-this-the-content-is-stolen/#comment-183915 [...] [...] [...] [...]

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