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]]> By: Only Connect! Quotes on Connections | Confident Writing http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-556859 Only Connect! Quotes on Connections | Confident Writing Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:03:50 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-556859 [...] (Lorelle VanFossen) [...] [...] (Lorelle VanFossen) [...]

]]> By: Improving Your Blog: Clarity : The Blog Herald http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-277358 Improving Your Blog: Clarity : The Blog Herald Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:01:30 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-277358 [...] the years, I’ve heard myself repeating the same points over and over again with clients who didn’t want to learn about web publishing but went ahead anyway, using whatever tool they [...] [...] the years, I’ve heard myself repeating the same points over and over again with clients who didn’t want to learn about web publishing but went ahead anyway, using whatever tool they [...]

]]> By: dinsan http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-248279 dinsan Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:26:46 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-248279 I agree, that we do not have control over the ads and they look ugly most of the times. Do you think advertisers will leave importance to your content when you are publishing their ads ? no, when someone look at your blog or website, they want their ad to look attractive, than your content.. thats how they become ugly !! Now, what if blogging is a hobby, and we need some money to support its hosting expense ? would you put ads then ? I am reading the other article ! thanks for that looooooooong comment.. looks like you wrote an entire post :) I agree, that we do not have control over the ads and they look ugly most of the times. Do you think advertisers will leave importance to your content when you are publishing their ads ? no, when someone look at your blog or website, they want their ad to look attractive, than your content.. thats how they become ugly !!

Now, what if blogging is a hobby, and we need some money to support its hosting expense ? would you put ads then ?

I am reading the other article ! thanks for that looooooooong comment.. looks like you wrote an entire post :)

]]> By: Lorelle VanFossen http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-247856 Lorelle VanFossen Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:49:32 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-247856 @<a href="http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-247786" rel="nofollow">dinsan</a>: If the blog is really personal, you do not need ads. It's not about the money, it's about the blogging. If the blog's purpose is to generate income, then the ads need to reflect the quality and integrity of the content. Ads today are ugly. Very few are even close to pleasant to look at, and most people ignore them when they see them, since they are so ugly. Few bloggers really can control what types of ads appear on their blogs. I've seen some who say they can, and when I look, the ads are for dog food, dating services, mortgages, casinos, and other unrelated and inappropriate products and services. Sometimes they are appropriate, but not all the time. Someday the ad industry will get the fact that we want our blogs to look good, and offer good looking ads, but for now, the majority of ad plans are ugly. An ad-filled blog gets in the way of the reader experience, thus, makes the experience of reading the blog uncomfortable and turns away many readers and linkers. If the ads are placed in a way as to not interfere with the reader, then they also stand a chance of making less money for the blogger. If money is the object of the blog, then the ads come first. If content is the object, and really the purpose of the blog, then ads come last. It's a personal decision. <a href="http://www.blogherald.com/2007/10/30/blogging-for-hobby-or-money/" title="Blogging For Hobby Or Money" rel="nofollow">I've written extensively about how money changes your blog</a> and the way you blog. If your blog is truly personal, than its importance far outweighs your need to have the blog earn income. Leave that to the professionals whose business relies upon the blog earning income. That's my humble opinion. It usually never gets in the way or changes the intent of greed on the web. ;-) @dinsan:

If the blog is really personal, you do not need ads. It’s not about the money, it’s about the blogging.

If the blog’s purpose is to generate income, then the ads need to reflect the quality and integrity of the content. Ads today are ugly. Very few are even close to pleasant to look at, and most people ignore them when they see them, since they are so ugly. Few bloggers really can control what types of ads appear on their blogs. I’ve seen some who say they can, and when I look, the ads are for dog food, dating services, mortgages, casinos, and other unrelated and inappropriate products and services. Sometimes they are appropriate, but not all the time.

Someday the ad industry will get the fact that we want our blogs to look good, and offer good looking ads, but for now, the majority of ad plans are ugly.

An ad-filled blog gets in the way of the reader experience, thus, makes the experience of reading the blog uncomfortable and turns away many readers and linkers.

If the ads are placed in a way as to not interfere with the reader, then they also stand a chance of making less money for the blogger. If money is the object of the blog, then the ads come first. If content is the object, and really the purpose of the blog, then ads come last.

It’s a personal decision. I’ve written extensively about how money changes your blog and the way you blog. If your blog is truly personal, than its importance far outweighs your need to have the blog earn income.

Leave that to the professionals whose business relies upon the blog earning income.

That’s my humble opinion. It usually never gets in the way or changes the intent of greed on the web. ;-)

]]> By: dinsan http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-247786 dinsan Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:29:57 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-247786 Lorelle, when read the second time, re think ads, its leaving me confused.... this is what I understand, if its your company blog, or let us say,if your blog has something to sell, or something to market, dont think about ads, it may cause interest clashes. But if you are the income generating force on your blog, ie, if there is no other income generating forces ..behind you ( like the interest of the company, web presence of the company, customer contacts of the company etc ) ........ hmm ie, if the blog is truely personal.... in the income earning view point,,,, then what ? you don't answer it there do you ? Lorelle, when read the second time, re think ads, its leaving me confused….

this is what I understand, if its your company blog, or let us say,if your blog has something to sell, or something to market, dont think about ads, it may cause interest clashes.

But if you are the income generating force on your blog, ie, if there is no other income generating forces ..behind you ( like the interest of the company, web presence of the company, customer contacts of the company etc ) …….. hmm ie, if the blog is truely personal…. in the income earning view point,,,, then what ? you don’t answer it there do you ?

]]> By: Visiting the Web Past: Lillian Vernon, Catalog and Web Pioneer : The Blog Herald http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-247404 Visiting the Web Past: Lillian Vernon, Catalog and Web Pioneer : The Blog Herald Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:22:40 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-247404 [...] and so on, then she would know better how her clients would do the same thing with her products. Rather than trusting “experts” to tell her how it worked, she learned from the ground [...] [...] and so on, then she would know better how her clients would do the same thing with her products. Rather than trusting “experts” to tell her how it worked, she learned from the ground [...]

]]> By: Aspiring Indie » Website Redesign: AspiringIndie.com http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-246002 Aspiring Indie » Website Redesign: AspiringIndie.com Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:32:06 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-246002 [...] again I have redesigned the “company” website. This time, in part due to the words of giants like Lorelle and in part due to ideas rubbing off from great designers like David Airey, I realized it was time [...] [...] again I have redesigned the “company” website. This time, in part due to the words of giants like Lorelle and in part due to ideas rubbing off from great designers like David Airey, I realized it was time [...]

]]> By: Lorelle VanFossen http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-244784 Lorelle VanFossen Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:25:52 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-244784 @<a href="http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-243934" rel="nofollow">dinsan</a>: Thanks all for the kind words and I'm glad I'm on the right track sharing this story. As for personal blogs - please tell me I don't have to answer that. :D I think it's clear in the article, don't you? @dinsan:

Thanks all for the kind words and I’m glad I’m on the right track sharing this story.

As for personal blogs – please tell me I don’t have to answer that. :D I think it’s clear in the article, don’t you?

]]> By: shane thomas http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-244563 shane thomas Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:03:38 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-244563 I have to disagree with Go Blog Not Website. Blogs are good for talking about pain points or experiences; websites are still the way to take them thru a product or interact in any sort of non-messaging way. I say you need both: blog it to talk it, website it for the nitty gritty and interaction. Great post! I have to disagree with Go Blog Not Website. Blogs are good for talking about pain points or experiences; websites are still the way to take them thru a product or interact in any sort of non-messaging way.

I say you need both: blog it to talk it, website it for the nitty gritty and interaction.

Great post!

]]> By: Thord Daniel Hedengren http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-244242 Thord Daniel Hedengren Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:08:35 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-244242 Nice post, Lorelle! Nice post, Lorelle!

]]> By: dinsan http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-243934 dinsan Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:23:44 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-243934 great post !!! hmm I agree with it 99.99 ... but only one question, do you think, if it is a personal blog.. is it ok to put ads ? great post !!! hmm I agree with it 99.99 … but only one question, do you think, if it is a personal blog.. is it ok to put ads ?

]]> By: Nettie Hartsock http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-243486 Nettie Hartsock Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:34:03 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-243486 Great post! Bravo! Great post! Bravo!

]]> By: Michael Martine http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-243328 Michael Martine Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:08:47 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-243328 YES! Way to go! As I read your post I found myself writhing in empathic agony at the thought of having to listen to such ignorance and bullshit. Gaaah! It makes me feel dirty inside my brain. Some people are so impossible. YES! Way to go! As I read your post I found myself writhing in empathic agony at the thought of having to listen to such ignorance and bullshit. Gaaah! It makes me feel dirty inside my brain. Some people are so impossible.

]]> By: Eric http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/comment-page-1/#comment-243265 Eric Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:20:32 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2007/11/13/improve-my-site-why-i-returned-the-money-from-a-paid-web-consultancy-job/#comment-243265 This article is so true on so many levels. It is amazing how companies with no web presence think that just because they have a website money is going to start flowing in. These are the same people that also believe the Yellow Pages are the absolute only way to advertise their business. But I do have to add this is a great article and one lots of people should be reading. This article is so true on so many levels. It is amazing how companies with no web presence think that just because they have a website money is going to start flowing in. These are the same people that also believe the Yellow Pages are the absolute only way to advertise their business.

But I do have to add this is a great article and one lots of people should be reading.

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