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		<title>By: Tico</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-1105761</link>
		<dc:creator>Tico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve been arguing this point for years: that too much choice is bad because it makes it difficult to find the right thing and makes it easy for dishonest companies to slip crap products into the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been arguing this point for years: that too much choice is bad because it makes it difficult to find the right thing and makes it easy for dishonest companies to slip crap products into the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-833295</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, spamming is really a big issue nowadays...unsolicited advertisements...they want easy money so they made that kind of style.which is bothering, if you are a bit naive you may fall into the trap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, spamming is really a big issue nowadays&#8230;unsolicited advertisements&#8230;they want easy money so they made that kind of style.which is bothering, if you are a bit naive you may fall into the trap.</p>
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		<title>By: Google! Clean Up Blogger! Now! : The Blog Herald</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-353360</link>
		<dc:creator>Google! Clean Up Blogger! Now! : The Blog Herald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] know that lately, there continues to be a lot of kvetching about Google, Page Rank, and spam blog issues. This are legitimate concerns, but I have a bigger bitch with Google. Clean up Blogger, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] know that lately, there continues to be a lot of kvetching about Google, Page Rank, and spam blog issues. This are legitimate concerns, but I have a bigger bitch with Google. Clean up Blogger, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: die-Spammer &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Spam spam spam egg and spam! - Der dümmste Kriminelle auf diesem Planet&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-352536</link>
		<dc:creator>die-Spammer &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Spam spam spam egg and spam! - Der dümmste Kriminelle auf diesem Planet&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what&#8217;ve you got? Waitress: Well, there&#8217;s egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what&#8217;ve you got? Waitress: Well, there&#8217;s egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-307320</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian &amp; Lorelle:

Though it wasn&#039;t what Lorelle meant to say, it is worth accenting. I don&#039;t think there is much point in watching your keywords because there isn&#039;t much you can do as you never know which keywords the spammers will target.

Case in point. Say I wrote the sentence: 

&quot;Increased competition from legitimate bloggers and search engines will result in enhancements in spam techniques.&quot;

Seems innocent enough, but a few pharma spammers will see the word &quot;enhancements and latch on to the post. 

Ok, rewrite the last part to read as follows:

&quot;...will result in improved performance in spamming techniques.&quot;

Once again, same problem though now with &quot;improved performance&quot;. Ok, so we try again, change the direction of the sentence.

&quot;will result in increased interest in developing new spamming techniques.&quot;

Same boat, this time real estate spammers will hit on &quot;increased interest&quot; and so the loop goes on.

Not only would you be denying your readers your true voice, but I can promise you that you will never be able to write your way out of the spammer&#039;s traps. There are so many kinds of spammers seeking so many keywords it isn&#039;t possible.

Though it would be a fun writing assignment to try. Maybe I just came up with a great way to torment my readers :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian &amp; Lorelle:</p>
<p>Though it wasn&#8217;t what Lorelle meant to say, it is worth accenting. I don&#8217;t think there is much point in watching your keywords because there isn&#8217;t much you can do as you never know which keywords the spammers will target.</p>
<p>Case in point. Say I wrote the sentence: </p>
<p>&#8220;Increased competition from legitimate bloggers and search engines will result in enhancements in spam techniques.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seems innocent enough, but a few pharma spammers will see the word &#8220;enhancements and latch on to the post. </p>
<p>Ok, rewrite the last part to read as follows:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;will result in improved performance in spamming techniques.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once again, same problem though now with &#8220;improved performance&#8221;. Ok, so we try again, change the direction of the sentence.</p>
<p>&#8220;will result in increased interest in developing new spamming techniques.&#8221;</p>
<p>Same boat, this time real estate spammers will hit on &#8220;increased interest&#8221; and so the loop goes on.</p>
<p>Not only would you be denying your readers your true voice, but I can promise you that you will never be able to write your way out of the spammer&#8217;s traps. There are so many kinds of spammers seeking so many keywords it isn&#8217;t possible.</p>
<p>Though it would be a fun writing assignment to try. Maybe I just came up with a great way to torment my readers :)</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-307069</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorelle VanFossen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/#comment-307044&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ian in hamburg&lt;/a&gt;:

Good point. I should have been more specific in my mention of &quot;careful&quot;. &lt;em&gt;Watch trackbacks closer&lt;/em&gt; to ensure you catch the scrapers and splogs and remove them from your comments panel, and take action if necessary to help put an end to them. 

Thanks for catching me on that, Ian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/#comment-307044" rel="nofollow">ian in hamburg</a>:</p>
<p>Good point. I should have been more specific in my mention of &#8220;careful&#8221;. <em>Watch trackbacks closer</em> to ensure you catch the scrapers and splogs and remove them from your comments panel, and take action if necessary to help put an end to them. </p>
<p>Thanks for catching me on that, Ian!</p>
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		<title>By: ian in hamburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian in hamburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being careful with keywords can cut down on the scrapers, but then again you&#039;re cutting yourself off from potential legitimate readers, are you not?   I had instant scrape as soon as a post with &quot;credit card&quot; in the title and travel in the categories was published.  I don&#039;t often write about credit cards, thank goodness, but I do like to write a travel post now and then.  What to do?  I don&#039;t want to feed these weasels my content on a platter, but avoiding these tags is a little like letting the bad guys win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being careful with keywords can cut down on the scrapers, but then again you&#8217;re cutting yourself off from potential legitimate readers, are you not?   I had instant scrape as soon as a post with &#8220;credit card&#8221; in the title and travel in the categories was published.  I don&#8217;t often write about credit cards, thank goodness, but I do like to write a travel post now and then.  What to do?  I don&#8217;t want to feed these weasels my content on a platter, but avoiding these tags is a little like letting the bad guys win.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-307034</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorelle VanFossen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/#comment-306740&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jonathan Bailey&lt;/a&gt;:

I have to take care in the words I choose now for the very reason Jonathan mentions. Within minutes of publishing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogherald.com/2007/09/03/give-credit-when-credit-is-due-skip-the-middle-man/&quot; title=&quot;Skip The Middle Man&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Give Credit When Credit is Due: Skip The Middle Man&lt;/a&gt;, three scraper trackbacks hit from mortgage, banking, and credit card splogs. The article is about giving credit to the source of the quoted post, not whoever pointed you to the source. Nothing to do with finance.

Don&#039;t forget, these people are making money. Lots of money. All their time and money goes into figuring out how to do this better and faster. There are a couple people we can &quot;thank&quot; for originally creating auto-scraping programs for WordPress blogs, but their excuse is that &quot;someone would do this so why not me first&quot; and they continue to get attention, links, and money for their actions.

Sure, evil blooms where people gather. It&#039;s just heartbreaking that evil is allowed to flourish in what should be a bastion of freedom and goodwill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/#comment-306740" rel="nofollow">Jonathan Bailey</a>:</p>
<p>I have to take care in the words I choose now for the very reason Jonathan mentions. Within minutes of publishing <a href="http://www.blogherald.com/2007/09/03/give-credit-when-credit-is-due-skip-the-middle-man/" title="Skip The Middle Man" rel="nofollow">Give Credit When Credit is Due: Skip The Middle Man</a>, three scraper trackbacks hit from mortgage, banking, and credit card splogs. The article is about giving credit to the source of the quoted post, not whoever pointed you to the source. Nothing to do with finance.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget, these people are making money. Lots of money. All their time and money goes into figuring out how to do this better and faster. There are a couple people we can &#8220;thank&#8221; for originally creating auto-scraping programs for WordPress blogs, but their excuse is that &#8220;someone would do this so why not me first&#8221; and they continue to get attention, links, and money for their actions.</p>
<p>Sure, evil blooms where people gather. It&#8217;s just heartbreaking that evil is allowed to flourish in what should be a bastion of freedom and goodwill.</p>
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		<title>By: PlagiarismToday &#187; 2008: Looking Ahead</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-306961</link>
		<dc:creator>PlagiarismToday &#187; 2008: Looking Ahead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] made this prediction a few days ago on the Blog Herald but it is worth repeating [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-306740</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josly: 

As a marketer I have to agree. Choice is good, too much choice is bad. Look at Linux for proof of that.

Still, I don&#039;t know if that is the problem here or not. I&#039;m really unsure what angle you&#039;re coming at this from or choice you are referring to? Choice in Web sites? That could be part of it at least.

Sue:

Why are they scraping you?

Well, it&#039;s hard to add on Lorelle here, but I can take a stab. 

The first problem is that some spammers seem to be grabbing just about everything that comes down the pipe. When you ping your blog out with every new entry, it goes to services that spammers and good guys alike can read and update from. Many pull from those sources and get incredible amounts of content.

The second is that many spammers target keywords and since it doesn&#039;t matter if the keyword is the center of your article, you can get picked up on some strange sites. Case in point, I had a woman who operated a blog focused on helping parents protecting their children that found her content being used on a spam blog promoting teen porn. Why? Because she happened to mention the two words in the same piece when talking about the dangers faced by runaways. It was horrible and disgusting, but is also the nature of this automated software.

I&#039;ve done tests on my own and found that scraping starts from the very first post, literally. It&#039;s frightening stuff. It doesn&#039;t matter how big or small you are, it&#039;s just a matter of if your content is available.

The only thing the PageRank hike might have changed is that it put you on spam &quot;short lists&quot;, lists that spammers keep of active blogs that have a good reputation. These are preferred targets because they create a reliable content stream. However, it isn&#039;t a matter of big or small, just how much output you have.

The bottom line is that spammers want content and they don&#039;t care who they get it from. 

Sad, but true. 

Lorelle: 

Thank you for the high praise and for your efforts as well. You&#039;ve done as much as I in this field!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josly: </p>
<p>As a marketer I have to agree. Choice is good, too much choice is bad. Look at Linux for proof of that.</p>
<p>Still, I don&#8217;t know if that is the problem here or not. I&#8217;m really unsure what angle you&#8217;re coming at this from or choice you are referring to? Choice in Web sites? That could be part of it at least.</p>
<p>Sue:</p>
<p>Why are they scraping you?</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s hard to add on Lorelle here, but I can take a stab. </p>
<p>The first problem is that some spammers seem to be grabbing just about everything that comes down the pipe. When you ping your blog out with every new entry, it goes to services that spammers and good guys alike can read and update from. Many pull from those sources and get incredible amounts of content.</p>
<p>The second is that many spammers target keywords and since it doesn&#8217;t matter if the keyword is the center of your article, you can get picked up on some strange sites. Case in point, I had a woman who operated a blog focused on helping parents protecting their children that found her content being used on a spam blog promoting teen porn. Why? Because she happened to mention the two words in the same piece when talking about the dangers faced by runaways. It was horrible and disgusting, but is also the nature of this automated software.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done tests on my own and found that scraping starts from the very first post, literally. It&#8217;s frightening stuff. It doesn&#8217;t matter how big or small you are, it&#8217;s just a matter of if your content is available.</p>
<p>The only thing the PageRank hike might have changed is that it put you on spam &#8220;short lists&#8221;, lists that spammers keep of active blogs that have a good reputation. These are preferred targets because they create a reliable content stream. However, it isn&#8217;t a matter of big or small, just how much output you have.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that spammers want content and they don&#8217;t care who they get it from. </p>
<p>Sad, but true. </p>
<p>Lorelle: </p>
<p>Thank you for the high praise and for your efforts as well. You&#8217;ve done as much as I in this field!</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-306470</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorelle VanFossen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 06:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/#comment-306381&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sue&lt;/a&gt;:

It&#039;s amazing how often I hear people say this same thing. Honestly, do you think that any scraper who grabs thousands of blog contents every day even pays attention to who they are grabbing? 

I&#039;ve found that they go after &quot;small&quot; bloggers as they are the ones less willing to &quot;fight back&quot;. It may or may not have anything to do with PageRank. It could do with keywords you use on your blog that brought them into their sights. It could be a lot of things, which I hope Jonathan can enlighten us with, but don&#039;t think you are special because you&#039;ve been scraped.

EVERYONE is being scraped or has the potential to be scraped. It&#039;s a sick world out there. Thank goodness we have people like Jonathan Bailey fighting for our rights and educating us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/#comment-306381" rel="nofollow">Sue</a>:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how often I hear people say this same thing. Honestly, do you think that any scraper who grabs thousands of blog contents every day even pays attention to who they are grabbing? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that they go after &#8220;small&#8221; bloggers as they are the ones less willing to &#8220;fight back&#8221;. It may or may not have anything to do with PageRank. It could do with keywords you use on your blog that brought them into their sights. It could be a lot of things, which I hope Jonathan can enlighten us with, but don&#8217;t think you are special because you&#8217;ve been scraped.</p>
<p>EVERYONE is being scraped or has the potential to be scraped. It&#8217;s a sick world out there. Thank goodness we have people like Jonathan Bailey fighting for our rights and educating us.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-306381</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, Attributor made a fine choice in choosing you as a consultant.
What gets me is why are they scraping me? I have a narrow niche that is of no interest to the general blogger, nowhere near the readers most blogs do (around a hundred a day, counting subscribers) so why me? Ah, wait. It&#039;s that Page Rank thing! As soon as I got a page rank from Google, as in 0 to 3, suddenly overnight I have scrapers pulling my content. And guess what, they&#039;re all loaded with adsense. At least between Akismet and Peter&#039;s Custom Captcha plugin, I can keep the spam comments away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, Attributor made a fine choice in choosing you as a consultant.<br />
What gets me is why are they scraping me? I have a narrow niche that is of no interest to the general blogger, nowhere near the readers most blogs do (around a hundred a day, counting subscribers) so why me? Ah, wait. It&#8217;s that Page Rank thing! As soon as I got a page rank from Google, as in 0 to 3, suddenly overnight I have scrapers pulling my content. And guess what, they&#8217;re all loaded with adsense. At least between Akismet and Peter&#8217;s Custom Captcha plugin, I can keep the spam comments away.</p>
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		<title>By: Josly</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-305525</link>
		<dc:creator>Josly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway, I&#039;ve been arguing this point for years: that too much choice is bad because it makes it difficult to find the right thing and makes it easy for dishonest companies to slip crap products into the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ve been arguing this point for years: that too much choice is bad because it makes it difficult to find the right thing and makes it easy for dishonest companies to slip crap products into the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-305203</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam: 

But at least we now have some money and corporations backing the good guys. It&#039;s a slight improvement...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam: </p>
<p>But at least we now have some money and corporations backing the good guys. It&#8217;s a slight improvement&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2007/12/31/2008-the-year-ahead-for-spam-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-305089</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and more and more programmers developing new spam techniques im afraid..</description>
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