Comments on: Dave Winer: The Original Blogger, who’s often wrong, but always real http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/ The leading source of news covering social media and the blogosphere. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:53:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Matt Craven http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/comment-page-1/#comment-424459 Matt Craven Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:28:38 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/#comment-424459 I would concur that the techcrunch piece re: twitter's architecture had some challenges. I certainly wouldn't write about Ruby issues because I've never programmed in it and don't know enough about it to feel like I could do an accurate story. However, friends of mine that do code Ruby argue that it has some scalability challenges - but again, I'm not comfortable enough to outline what those are. m I would concur that the techcrunch piece re: twitter’s architecture had some challenges. I certainly wouldn’t write about Ruby issues because I’ve never programmed in it and don’t know enough about it to feel like I could do an accurate story.

However, friends of mine that do code Ruby argue that it has some scalability challenges – but again, I’m not comfortable enough to outline what those are.

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]]> By: Chris Garrett http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/comment-page-1/#comment-424325 Chris Garrett Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:18:56 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/#comment-424325 I'm glad to hear you didn't mean only programmers should write about technology Dave. I’m glad to hear you didn’t mean only programmers should write about technology Dave.

]]> By: Dave Winer http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/comment-page-1/#comment-423802 Dave Winer Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:00:07 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/#comment-423802 Also, I didn't name the people because I didn't want to make it about the people. I wanted people to focus on the circumstance. If this were a different industry, one you weren't in the middle of, how would you feel about the incestuous relationships? I wouldn't like it. Also, I didn’t name the people because I didn’t want to make it about the people. I wanted people to focus on the circumstance. If this were a different industry, one you weren’t in the middle of, how would you feel about the incestuous relationships? I wouldn’t like it.

]]> By: Dave Winer http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/comment-page-1/#comment-423801 Dave Winer Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:58:37 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/#comment-423801 I certainly didn't say that only programmers should write about technology and I don't believe it. Maybe that's why you think I'm so often wrong, because you attribute ideas to me that I don't agree with. I would I say I was wrong too if I catually believed that. I don't. However there are some stories that *are* technical and if you don't understand technology there's a pretty good chance you'll get it wrong. An example is the Techcrunch piece today about the chief architect at Twitter. If he were an engineer or had asked an engineer about it he could have written a much more fair piece. However, I do appreciate the compliment that I'm always real -- that's something I strive for. I certainly didn’t say that only programmers should write about technology and I don’t believe it. Maybe that’s why you think I’m so often wrong, because you attribute ideas to me that I don’t agree with. I would I say I was wrong too if I catually believed that. I don’t.

However there are some stories that *are* technical and if you don’t understand technology there’s a pretty good chance you’ll get it wrong. An example is the Techcrunch piece today about the chief architect at Twitter. If he were an engineer or had asked an engineer about it he could have written a much more fair piece.

However, I do appreciate the compliment that I’m always real — that’s something I strive for.

]]> By: vicemax http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/comment-page-1/#comment-423288 vicemax Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:01:16 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/#comment-423288 This post has kinda been stewing since I first Dave Winers post yesterday where he first preformed a drive-by character assassination without being man enough to use the real names of those involved (for the record it was about Gabe Rivera and Michael This post has kinda been stewing since I first Dave Winers post yesterday where he first preformed a drive-by character assassination without being man enough to use the real names of those involved (for the record it was about Gabe Rivera and Michael

]]> By: Chris Garrett http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/comment-page-1/#comment-423132 Chris Garrett Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:49:26 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/2008/04/21/dave-winer-the-original-blogger-whos-often-wrong-but-always-real/#comment-423132 The ability to write code has always been used as a badge of honor or a stick to beat people with. There are two assumptions 1) People who write code are "better" 2) People who write code are "worse" What do I mean? The former are the people who look down on anyone who doesn't know what they do, or lacks experience, and you get it in every field, from gardening to mountain climbing. The latter think coders are socially inept, not creative and are unable to think strategy outside of tech. Also rubbish but the stereotype persists. Again, this also happens in lots of fields, I have heard people say "so-and-so can't present, he is an *accountant*, he will bore them to death" or "keep marketing away from this", or "leave this to the grown-ups, stick to moving pixels around" Of course *anyone* can code. An entire generation of programmers started with their vic20/c64/spectrum/atari/trs80/etc, programming before they got to their teens. Now more than ever it is easy to pick up. Being able to code means nothing. Nada. Zip. Code is a commodity. Of course there is a world of difference between being able to code and being able to code *well* :) I think all these fallacies are born out of insecurity and are a way to shore up the attackers own position. The ability to write code has always been used as a badge of honor or a stick to beat people with. There are two assumptions

1) People who write code are “better”
2) People who write code are “worse”

What do I mean?

The former are the people who look down on anyone who doesn’t know what they do, or lacks experience, and you get it in every field, from gardening to mountain climbing.

The latter think coders are socially inept, not creative and are unable to think strategy outside of tech. Also rubbish but the stereotype persists. Again, this also happens in lots of fields, I have heard people say “so-and-so can’t present, he is an *accountant*, he will bore them to death” or “keep marketing away from this”, or “leave this to the grown-ups, stick to moving pixels around”

Of course *anyone* can code. An entire generation of programmers started with their vic20/c64/spectrum/atari/trs80/etc, programming before they got to their teens. Now more than ever it is easy to pick up. Being able to code means nothing. Nada. Zip. Code is a commodity. Of course there is a world of difference between being able to code and being able to code *well* :)

I think all these fallacies are born out of insecurity and are a way to shore up the attackers own position.

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