Comments on: Surfing the Slow Web http://www.blogherald.com/2008/09/08/surfing-the-slow-web/ The leading source of news covering social media and the blogosphere. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:30:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Malvina Leahhttp://www.chilggoooto.com http://www.blogherald.com/2008/09/08/surfing-the-slow-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1128466 Malvina Leahhttp://www.chilggoooto.com Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:34:27 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/?p=8360#comment-1128466 Hello there, simply became alert to your blog through Google,my site is http://www.chilggoooto.com Hello there, simply became alert to your blog through Google,my site is http://www.chilggoooto.com

]]> By: Dylan Lopez http://www.blogherald.com/2008/09/08/surfing-the-slow-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1118702 Dylan Lopez Sun, 01 Aug 2010 17:03:43 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/?p=8360#comment-1118702 i broke my arm on a freak surfing accident but hey, surfing is a nice sport--, i broke my arm on a freak surfing accident but hey, surfing is a nice sport–,

]]> By: Jennifer Powell http://www.blogherald.com/2008/09/08/surfing-the-slow-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1116630 Jennifer Powell Fri, 21 May 2010 05:05:06 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/?p=8360#comment-1116630 Surfing is really the best sport out there, i love the adrenaline rush when surfing on big waves.-*~ Surfing is really the best sport out there, i love the adrenaline rush when surfing on big waves.-*~

]]> By: aditya http://www.blogherald.com/2008/09/08/surfing-the-slow-web/comment-page-1/#comment-611131 aditya Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:27:28 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/?p=8360#comment-611131 I cant even think of using the dial-up.I use to use it 10yrs back when i was small.The speed is really very bad. Cant even think of going back to tht era of slowness. I cant even think of using the dial-up.I use to use it 10yrs back when i was small.The speed is really very bad.

Cant even think of going back to tht era of slowness.

]]> By: Beloy http://www.blogherald.com/2008/09/08/surfing-the-slow-web/comment-page-1/#comment-591733 Beloy Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:08:01 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/?p=8360#comment-591733 Great article, Jonathan! But this problem is much bigger than you think: It's not about caring for people on a slow connection. It's about overloading all of us with useless information NOISE! Most people come to websites for MAIN CONTENT ONLY! And they actually don't care about beauty (and complexity) of the design webmasters are so proud of. Be it Flash, scripts, - and especially Advertising! People simply don't care about them! The problem is not to quickly load on your computer the tons of unnecessory data. The problem is to quickly find there a useful content. And this is what many webmasters are still don't realize. This is not about the past, - this is about FUTURE! In particular, for the coming MOBILE culture of reading. Please read articles about it on my website I devoted to this problem: http://at.Mini-News.com Great article, Jonathan!
But this problem is much bigger than you think:
It’s not about caring for people on a slow connection.
It’s about overloading all of us with useless information NOISE!
Most people come to websites for MAIN CONTENT ONLY! And they actually don’t care about beauty (and complexity) of the design webmasters are so proud of. Be it Flash, scripts, – and especially Advertising! People simply don’t care about them!

The problem is not to quickly load on your computer the tons of unnecessory data. The problem is to quickly find there a useful content. And this is what many webmasters are still don’t realize.
This is not about the past, – this is about FUTURE!
In particular, for the coming MOBILE culture of reading.
Please read articles about it on my website I devoted to this problem:
http://at.Mini-News.com

]]> By: J. Angelo Racoma http://www.blogherald.com/2008/09/08/surfing-the-slow-web/comment-page-1/#comment-591246 J. Angelo Racoma Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:57:22 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/?p=8360#comment-591246 Most of the folks I know who are very fond of optimizing and tweaking for speed are not necessarily the bloggers or publishers themselves, but those who run web apps on their own (or leased) servers. Imagine getting hit by queries thousands or millions of times in a minute, and just even a few kilobytes shaved off per transaction would add up to a big sum. Sure, for a reader a few KBs would not do much of a difference, especially since most of us are on broadband. Even on slow connections, 10KB will just be a one second (or so) difference in loading time. But to those who pay for the bandwidth this makes a difference. Personally it boils down to my being patient enough to wait for pages to load, and my intent in loading that page. If it's a blog and it's loading a lot of videos, then my tendency is just to click away or close the tab. But if it's a page of a video I really am interested to see, then I would be willing to wait a few seconds (minutes?) more for loading. Most of the folks I know who are very fond of optimizing and tweaking for speed are not necessarily the bloggers or publishers themselves, but those who run web apps on their own (or leased) servers. Imagine getting hit by queries thousands or millions of times in a minute, and just even a few kilobytes shaved off per transaction would add up to a big sum.

Sure, for a reader a few KBs would not do much of a difference, especially since most of us are on broadband. Even on slow connections, 10KB will just be a one second (or so) difference in loading time. But to those who pay for the bandwidth this makes a difference.

Personally it boils down to my being patient enough to wait for pages to load, and my intent in loading that page. If it’s a blog and it’s loading a lot of videos, then my tendency is just to click away or close the tab. But if it’s a page of a video I really am interested to see, then I would be willing to wait a few seconds (minutes?) more for loading.

]]> By: Lorelle VanFossen http://www.blogherald.com/2008/09/08/surfing-the-slow-web/comment-page-1/#comment-590400 Lorelle VanFossen Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:28:02 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/?p=8360#comment-590400 I'm so glad you brought up this subject as it has been the bane of my life on the road. I might find a high speed WIFI connection, but I'm usually still topped out at 10 Mps at the VERY top of the scale but it is usually sitting about 1 - 1.5 Megs per second. With the world moving the Internet onto their cell phones, it was interesting to see <a href="http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/08/global-iphone-3.html" title="Wired.com's iPhone 3G Survey Reveals Network Weaknesses" rel="nofollow">Wired's iPhone 3G survey</a> results report the average speed in the US at 990 Kbps, but that's an average doing what averages do. It takes only a couple high numbers to bring up a very low speed to that number. If every web designer built for high speed Internet, even today I'd have trouble and run out of patience. CSS was designed to maximize bandwidth issues. Let's not forget to honor everyone at all bandwidths when we design and code. Thanks for the reminder and glad you are safe! I’m so glad you brought up this subject as it has been the bane of my life on the road. I might find a high speed WIFI connection, but I’m usually still topped out at 10 Mps at the VERY top of the scale but it is usually sitting about 1 – 1.5 Megs per second.

With the world moving the Internet onto their cell phones, it was interesting to see Wired’s iPhone 3G survey results report the average speed in the US at 990 Kbps, but that’s an average doing what averages do. It takes only a couple high numbers to bring up a very low speed to that number.

If every web designer built for high speed Internet, even today I’d have trouble and run out of patience. CSS was designed to maximize bandwidth issues. Let’s not forget to honor everyone at all bandwidths when we design and code.

Thanks for the reminder and glad you are safe!

]]> By: Jonathan Bailey http://www.blogherald.com/2008/09/08/surfing-the-slow-web/comment-page-1/#comment-590333 Jonathan Bailey Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:43:06 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/?p=8360#comment-590333 Rarst. That makes sense. Still feels strange that when you're downloading at 3 KB/s you notice that over the sound of your connection sucking but yes, it makes sense. Thank you for the explanation! Rarst. That makes sense. Still feels strange that when you’re downloading at 3 KB/s you notice that over the sound of your connection sucking but yes, it makes sense. Thank you for the explanation!

]]> By: Rarst http://www.blogherald.com/2008/09/08/surfing-the-slow-web/comment-page-1/#comment-590291 Rarst Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:56:43 +0000 http://www.blogherald.com/?p=8360#comment-590291 I am spending some time to ensure my blog is always light and fast loading. Not that this is super important but I consider it... proper. On the question of near/far sites - that's latency coming into play. Internet conneciton is like a pipe, it may be wide but it still takes time to flow for start to end. The farther site is - the longer is pipe. It is simply less noticeable on broadband. On slow connection it is easier to feel difference in latency lag. I am spending some time to ensure my blog is always light and fast loading. Not that this is super important but I consider it… proper.

On the question of near/far sites – that’s latency coming into play. Internet conneciton is like a pipe, it may be wide but it still takes time to flow for start to end. The farther site is – the longer is pipe.

It is simply less noticeable on broadband. On slow connection it is easier to feel difference in latency lag.

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