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		<title>By: Scooter</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2009/03/02/is-blog-searching-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-860242</link>
		<dc:creator>Scooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, you may want to run this entry through a spell check and grammar check.  There are several errors that take away from the great piece you wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, you may want to run this entry through a spell check and grammar check.  There are several errors that take away from the great piece you wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: SJDelaney</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2009/03/02/is-blog-searching-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-859867</link>
		<dc:creator>SJDelaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Prouerbe old, yet nere forgot;
Tis good to strike while the Irons hott.

To the glory days of the blogger&#039;s domain; 
may the tweeterer&#039;s hearts grow fonder.

Can&#039;t stay me ways in those frontier days;
twill ne&#039;r forget them either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Prouerbe old, yet nere forgot;<br />
Tis good to strike while the Irons hott.</p>
<p>To the glory days of the blogger&#8217;s domain;<br />
may the tweeterer&#8217;s hearts grow fonder.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t stay me ways in those frontier days;<br />
twill ne&#8217;r forget them either.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lockhart</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2009/03/02/is-blog-searching-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-846300</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Lockhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan: we are definitely going for quality over quantity, but I hear you on the overall volume. Partially it&#039;s by design. We&#039;re working on adding more blogs every week to round out some areas and add a larger pool of quality stuff so those numbers will go up. At the end of the day we are keeping our eye on our niche. We know there is value in searching the larger blogosphere in some cases which you can do on Technorati or Google Blog Search, but we feel there&#039;s also real value in a resource that is really focused on searching and browsing only quality posts. Thanks for your nice words about Regator and we&#039;re glad you find it useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan: we are definitely going for quality over quantity, but I hear you on the overall volume. Partially it&#8217;s by design. We&#8217;re working on adding more blogs every week to round out some areas and add a larger pool of quality stuff so those numbers will go up. At the end of the day we are keeping our eye on our niche. We know there is value in searching the larger blogosphere in some cases which you can do on Technorati or Google Blog Search, but we feel there&#8217;s also real value in a resource that is really focused on searching and browsing only quality posts. Thanks for your nice words about Regator and we&#8217;re glad you find it useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2009/03/02/is-blog-searching-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-846205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott: I actually use several Regator feeds as part of my &quot;keep on top of things&quot; feeds. They are fairly quiet feeds, I get maybe 5 posts on average per day on my topics, but I do know that they are relevant and they are always high-quality posts.

So, in that regard, Regator is a smashing success. I can&#039;t find any fault in your process of finding new blogs to pick (it would be suicide as you actually have picked up my main blog, plagairismtoday.com). 

Still, there is a trade off. I follow these watchlists to find new articles to link to, comment on and converse with. Sadly, the problem with this setup is that, while density is high, quantity is low, as you mentioned.

What I do right now is read my Regator feeds first, trusting that they are going to be at least reasonable in quality, and then begin the process of wading through less-dense feeds. It does its job well and it is a great asset, one I recommend to others wholeheartedly, but it also isn&#039;t a complete solution.

It&#039;s part of the answer, perhaps even a big part, but there is more to be done from other sides.

Congrats though on a great service!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott: I actually use several Regator feeds as part of my &#8220;keep on top of things&#8221; feeds. They are fairly quiet feeds, I get maybe 5 posts on average per day on my topics, but I do know that they are relevant and they are always high-quality posts.</p>
<p>So, in that regard, Regator is a smashing success. I can&#8217;t find any fault in your process of finding new blogs to pick (it would be suicide as you actually have picked up my main blog, plagairismtoday.com). </p>
<p>Still, there is a trade off. I follow these watchlists to find new articles to link to, comment on and converse with. Sadly, the problem with this setup is that, while density is high, quantity is low, as you mentioned.</p>
<p>What I do right now is read my Regator feeds first, trusting that they are going to be at least reasonable in quality, and then begin the process of wading through less-dense feeds. It does its job well and it is a great asset, one I recommend to others wholeheartedly, but it also isn&#8217;t a complete solution.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s part of the answer, perhaps even a big part, but there is more to be done from other sides.</p>
<p>Congrats though on a great service!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lockhart</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2009/03/02/is-blog-searching-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-846146</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Lockhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, great post. I&#039;m one of the co-founders of Regator and I would agree with you on the decline of useful blog search from the major players for all the reasons you outline. I also agree there are some issues with purely algorithmical estimations of a blog&#039;s quality as they can and will get gamed if there is enough value in doing so. 

We looked at the quality problem and went back to basics. We use qualified editors to select blogs on the site essentially creating a curated and closed system to ensure only quality stuff is in our database. We do use algorithms and other magic to ensure that we keep track of what&#039;s going on with those blogs, as doing it manually is unrealistic. Is it the most technological forward method using AI and advanced semantic algorithms to find the best blogs? Not really. But it works well. 

We are especially selective when it comes to the blogs on our site. We have strict criteria on each one and our qualified editors actually read months of posts (on most) to ascertain if the writing quality is up to scratch among being on topic and updated regularly, among other factors. Sure, this means that we don&#039;t have tens of thousands of blogs on every subject just yet, but we are still pretty young and we intend on continuing to grow. Our archive is over 2,000,000 posts right now so we are creating a pool of useful content. Also, we are targeting users who are not quite familiar with blogs/RSS and we want to be an easy way for them to be introduced to quality blog content. 

Anyways, I have rambled on here but we love the feedback and if your or any of your readers have any, we&#039;d love to hear it. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, great post. I&#8217;m one of the co-founders of Regator and I would agree with you on the decline of useful blog search from the major players for all the reasons you outline. I also agree there are some issues with purely algorithmical estimations of a blog&#8217;s quality as they can and will get gamed if there is enough value in doing so. </p>
<p>We looked at the quality problem and went back to basics. We use qualified editors to select blogs on the site essentially creating a curated and closed system to ensure only quality stuff is in our database. We do use algorithms and other magic to ensure that we keep track of what&#8217;s going on with those blogs, as doing it manually is unrealistic. Is it the most technological forward method using AI and advanced semantic algorithms to find the best blogs? Not really. But it works well. </p>
<p>We are especially selective when it comes to the blogs on our site. We have strict criteria on each one and our qualified editors actually read months of posts (on most) to ascertain if the writing quality is up to scratch among being on topic and updated regularly, among other factors. Sure, this means that we don&#8217;t have tens of thousands of blogs on every subject just yet, but we are still pretty young and we intend on continuing to grow. Our archive is over 2,000,000 posts right now so we are creating a pool of useful content. Also, we are targeting users who are not quite familiar with blogs/RSS and we want to be an easy way for them to be introduced to quality blog content. </p>
<p>Anyways, I have rambled on here but we love the feedback and if your or any of your readers have any, we&#8217;d love to hear it. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2009/03/02/is-blog-searching-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-846043</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin: I&#039;m going to respond on your other post as well but I wanted to say that I think the reason the dialog has shifted is because people, like myself, remember the &quot;golden age&quot; of blog search around late 2005 to mid-2006 and have watched as it has deteriorated. In less than 1000 days it has gone from liquid greatness to liquid garbage.

It ends up hard to not either call it dead or want to put it out of its misery.

As far as the problem goes though. You may be right. The problem though is that we&#039;ll have to see how a more semantic Web fixes this problem Even with a truly semantic blog search, you still have the issue of spammers, who will now try to game this as well, the exponential increase in blogs and semantic Web search addresses none of this directly.

I guess we&#039;ll see what happens next...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin: I&#8217;m going to respond on your other post as well but I wanted to say that I think the reason the dialog has shifted is because people, like myself, remember the &#8220;golden age&#8221; of blog search around late 2005 to mid-2006 and have watched as it has deteriorated. In less than 1000 days it has gone from liquid greatness to liquid garbage.</p>
<p>It ends up hard to not either call it dead or want to put it out of its misery.</p>
<p>As far as the problem goes though. You may be right. The problem though is that we&#8217;ll have to see how a more semantic Web fixes this problem Even with a truly semantic blog search, you still have the issue of spammers, who will now try to game this as well, the exponential increase in blogs and semantic Web search addresses none of this directly.</p>
<p>I guess we&#8217;ll see what happens next&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Martin B.</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2009/03/02/is-blog-searching-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-844371</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jonathan, 

It&#039;s really amazing how the notion of &quot;blog search&quot; has gone from generally sceptical, to that of &quot;broken&quot; to that of &quot;dead&quot; over the last year or so. Blog are still on the rize, yet there still seems to be no decent search for them.. somewhat strange really..

I think that the biggest problem is not really spam-blogs or irrelevant sources as such, but the lack of semantic/meaning mining approach to the search problem. 

Enjoy the follow-up over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://topify.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/blog-search-broken-or-even-fully-dead/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my site&lt;/a&gt; if you like (if you don&#039;t, you&#039;re still on our list of first people to get an invite when our service launches :))

Cheers,
Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jonathan, </p>
<p>It&#8217;s really amazing how the notion of &#8220;blog search&#8221; has gone from generally sceptical, to that of &#8220;broken&#8221; to that of &#8220;dead&#8221; over the last year or so. Blog are still on the rize, yet there still seems to be no decent search for them.. somewhat strange really..</p>
<p>I think that the biggest problem is not really spam-blogs or irrelevant sources as such, but the lack of semantic/meaning mining approach to the search problem. </p>
<p>Enjoy the follow-up over at <a href="http://topify.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/blog-search-broken-or-even-fully-dead/" rel="nofollow">my site</a> if you like (if you don&#8217;t, you&#8217;re still on our list of first people to get an invite when our service launches :))</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2009/03/02/is-blog-searching-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-841936</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chung: Thank you. I just started using Twingly off and on a while back but it seems to be the best solution going right now.

Aaron: I&#039;m the same way, mostly subscribing to related search results, its in my RSS reader that I&#039;ve noticed the noise become unbearable. 

Krug: So far, so good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chung: Thank you. I just started using Twingly off and on a while back but it seems to be the best solution going right now.</p>
<p>Aaron: I&#8217;m the same way, mostly subscribing to related search results, its in my RSS reader that I&#8217;ve noticed the noise become unbearable. </p>
<p>Krug: So far, so good!</p>
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		<title>By: Krug</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2009/03/02/is-blog-searching-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-841783</link>
		<dc:creator>Krug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree twingly does rock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree twingly does rock.</p>
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		<title>By: moore</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2009/03/02/is-blog-searching-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-841692</link>
		<dc:creator>moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never really searched for blogs - generally find my way round using other peoples blogrolls. More recently I&#039;ve used feeds from the growing number of small specialist index sites such as naturenetworkblogs or similar sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never really searched for blogs &#8211; generally find my way round using other peoples blogrolls. More recently I&#8217;ve used feeds from the growing number of small specialist index sites such as naturenetworkblogs or similar sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron B. Hockley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron B. Hockley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a rare occurrence that I&#039;ll go manually search blog entries, but I subscribe to several search feeds using my RSS reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a rare occurrence that I&#8217;ll go manually search blog entries, but I subscribe to several search feeds using my RSS reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Chung Bey Luen</title>
		<link>http://www.blogherald.com/2009/03/02/is-blog-searching-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-841428</link>
		<dc:creator>Chung Bey Luen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, I didn&#039;t use blog search for quite long time until recently I found Twingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, I didn&#8217;t use blog search for quite long time until recently I found Twingly.</p>
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